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by throw1235435 9mo ago
Sure. I just know in most companies (seeing the numbers on projects in a number of them across industries now) funding projects which give time for people to think, ponder, publish white papers of new techniques is rare and economically not
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by throw1235435 9mo ago
> Expertise and craft and specialized knowledge can become irrelevant in a heartbeat, so your meaning and joy and purpose should be in higher principles. My meaning could be in higher purposes; however I still need a job to be enable&#x2
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by throw1235435 9mo ago
Jevons paradox I doubt applies to software sadly for SWE's; or at least not in the way they hope it does. That paradox implies that there are software projects on the shelf that have a decent return on investment (ROI) but aren't
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by throw1235435 9mo ago
If we had done what you say (distribute wealth more evenly between people/corporations) more to the point I don't know if AI would of progressed as it has - companies would of been more selective with their investment money and pr
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by throw1235435 9mo ago
As I mentioned in another comment they smell blood in our profession, and as entities dependent on investor/VC/seed money rounds they want it. There's a reason every new model that comes out has a blog post "best at codi
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by throw1235435 10mo ago
That's easy. If I don't use it I won't be competitive; however I and probably many others would prefer a world where NO ONE has it as it would be a better overall outcome. For a lack of a better term I would call these "
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by throw1235435 10mo ago
> No: people that care to understand the whole stack, and be able to provide that value, will still exist and shine. I hope so. But I don't believe so. I think us SWE's will find a way to disrupt that too as we all rush for the
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by throw1235435 10mo ago
I think the models, if they continue to get better, and frameworks/service patterns change to accommodate AI's. Where pieces of code will be thrown away, etc because the new code will be designed to slowly accommodate the "bi
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by throw1235435 10mo ago
Its simple. Given the trajectory of these things people feel under threat and defend themselves accordingly. They say what they hope for given a number of factors (bad workplaces generating slop they have to deal with, job losses, identity
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by throw1235435 10mo ago
Agree with this. The RLVR changes (starting with o1 I think) was what changed/disrupted the industry. Before that I thought these things were just better autocomplete.
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by throw1235435 10mo ago
I don't think that will happen because it hasn't for other technological improvements. In the end people pay for "good enough" and that's that. If "good enough" is now cheaper to implement that's all
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by throw1235435 10mo ago
I'm not sure that it will scale to other fields other than coding and math. The approach with RLVR makes it more amenable to STEM fields in general and most jobs believe it or not aren't that. The level of open source software wit
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by throw1235435 10mo ago
I'm wondering if the ROI will be worth it anytime soon for anything other than coding, and anything that can be publically scraped of the internet. Or more to the point things that are at a enterprise level and require paid staff to tr
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by throw1235435 10mo ago
Its hard to imagine now but the code won't matter. We will have other methods of validating the product I think; like before tech. There are many ways to validate something; this is an easier problem than creation (which these AI model
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by throw1235435 10mo ago
You will get downvoted but I unfortunately agree with you; also as a SWE of similar tenure. People assume there's other things to jump to and yes in the short term there may be. But the industry already has those things on its roadmap
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by throw1235435 10mo ago
Nah; the only advantage that a software engineer has is that if they are experienced they've probably just a little bit bright. But their role will probably change to something other than a software engineer. Bright valuable people tha
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by throw1235435 10mo ago
There are people posting on this website that are in that category; or in those companies. For example most people working outside America as a SWE who like the profession. The options to work for a place that gives stock options, and equit
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by throw1235435 10mo ago
TL;DR: Code is the easy part; and at least in the last few years was rarely the bottleneck so even if we get rid of coding we don't deliver infinity amount of software. The "What to build" usually takes longer than building i
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by throw1235435 10mo ago
I find it interesting that tech people think LLM's will automate most jobs other than software and other creative jobs. Its hard to imagine for us techies that billions if not trillions of investment is mostly targeting disrupting soft
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by throw1235435 1y ago
Its obvious why though. The typical "tech" culture values human ingenuity, creativity, intelligence and agency due to its history. Someone coming up with a new algorithm in their garage can build a billion dollar business - it is
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by throw1235435 1y ago
That's the real question IMO. Especially when everything that isn't deflationary with AI for the most part is getting much more expensive due to inflation globally. Save money on software, buy more blue collar goods. If its an eas
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by throw1235435 1y ago
Especially outside the US where having a 140 IQ isn't really enough to have a high wage. Only social EQ and high capital does that in most of the world.
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by throw1235435 1y ago
That's only possible if you as the worker are capturing the efficiencies that the automation provides (i.e. you get RSU's, you have an equity stake in the business as well). Believe it or not most SWE's and white collar worke
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by throw1235435 1y ago
I think the point of the poster is that there's no need for them because as he puts it replace "the majority of engineers". Tech is about to be decimated - software as a field is about to shrink quite substantially. To be hon
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by throw1235435 1y ago
Pretty much. Everything is about prompt now. Its either "You aren't prompting right", or "Need to prompt harder/more accurately/etc". The only skill that matters now seems to be using a paid vendor product
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by throw1235435 1y ago
Its interesting that even people initially skeptical are now thinking they are on the "chopping block" so to speak. I'm seeing it all over the internet and the slow realization that what supposed to be the "top of the he
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by throw1235435 1y ago
Depends where you work. I've seen a lot of Java and .NET jobs around where I am. Having both jobs I find it easier to get performant code in .NET than Java (reified generics, value types, more primitives/less boxing in general, an
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by throw1235435 1y ago
This may be unpopular/counter-intuitive to say, but in a capitalist world this is probably the best outcome IF (and I'm not saying I can predict the future) we expect the profession to die/be obsolete from a society POV - in
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by throw1235435 1y ago
On my side we've refrained from hiring people/training people due to AI. Its mostly been a good decision especially at the frontend layer where those teams are starting to do more with less. Don't get me wrong - I don't
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by throw1235435 1y ago
> Software will get automated, and it already is, people just havent figured it out yet To be honest I think this is most AI labs (particularly the American ones) not-so-secret goal now, for a number of strong reasons. You can see it in

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