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AI-generated, and also highly untrustworthy given its source - Riot Games is an extraordinarily player-, community-, and pro-player-hostile company. On top of all of the new and exciting ways that they manage to not only screw up softwa
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> Sure, and the twitter thread you link also shows Kimi responding that it's Kimi. You are either intentionally lying or you cannot reason at a high-school level, because any high-schooler has the mental faculties to know that it&#x
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> it was just a bunch of insults with zero technical content to respond to Yet more lies. I made many substantial comments, and the fact that you're lying about that is you, not me. You've already lied about my own words mult
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3mo ago
Keep discrediting your account. I know that I can't convince a propagandist, but you just keep on further damaging your own reputation and argument for other HN readers every time you respond like this and ignore evidence that I'
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> because it can't be distilled ...and, as everyone in the frontier labs knows, this is a lie, because that's not how distillation is defined. I know that I won't convinced you , because you're quite possibly a PRC a
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You literally did not read my comment before responding or actually respond to any of the points. "I don't think its performance can be explained away by distillation or anything like that." even if you assume that Dean Ball
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> So are you claiming that "several different Chinese LLMs" ALWAYS refer to themselves as "Claude", and NEVER by their real name ? Do you have reading comprehension issues? Where did I ever say or imply that? Model: G
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3mo ago
Isn't that because Fable/Mythos were tuned for cyber at the expense of general performance?
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3mo ago
Interesting, I'd like to discuss further - can you please add an email to your HN profile?
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> Words have meaning - you cant just redefine them because you want to. You are redefining words. The consensus among people who work in this space is that "distilling" is what's actually going on here. > who are just
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The GP (HarHarVeryFunny) is not operating in good faith. They've repeatedly lied about my own words to me, and are making up definitions that people who actually work at a frontier lab would disagree with.
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> You appear to know nothing about how these models work. > Do you know where the "reasoning summary" that Fable outputs comes from? I bet you're assuming it comes from Fable. Wrong. You can find the truth on Anthropic&
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> I'm curious what you are doing to get them to override their own name that they were trained on and/or have as part of their system prompt? You're gaslighting me. I did nothing special at all, and there's ample ev
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> At the end of the day, without having internal logits or original reasoning traces, "distillation" (which suggests one model being derived from another) just seems a very manipulative way of describing this. Again - you'
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3mo ago
Isn't Fugu the same kind of thing as NotDiamond[1] (which I believe OpenRouter uses) except not as good? [1] https://www.notdiamond.ai/
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...which they already had: https://www.chinatalk.media/p/how-to-buy-cheap-claude-tokens... The line "how could they do it in such a short time" is absolutely idiotic. The infrastructure was already there, it&
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> What’s actually happening behind the scenes is that certain inference providers will classify a prompt and it’s re-routed transparently to Anthropic and that’s used for distillation training Uh, no. There are Chinese networks of tens t
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> Useful for what is the question. Useful for distillation. Any employee at a frontier AI lab will tell you this. This is known in the industry , and it's an open secret that some US labs (OpenAI) distill on the others. Again - don
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> Well there were observed cases of Claude calling itself Deepseek or Qwen. So pot calling the kettle black? There are open-source Deepseek and Qwen models - "distilling" doesn't involve breaking terms of service or hitt
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> I'm just nothing that HN rhetoric is contradictory. Periodic reminder that HN is not a collective or a singular entity and is actually a bunch of different people with different opinions. Often the people with the loudest opinions
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> Anthropic's models simply do not give you their reasoning output - they give a sanitized "summary" instead, for this exact reason, so that the output is not useful to anyone who might want to use it for training. This is
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> benchmarkmaxxing on a weightlifting competition If you stick to the benchpress, it's just "benchmaxxing".
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I don't see that anywhere in the parent's comment. Where did you get all that?
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> It's part of the rationale for why one would choose Pi over Claude It's unrelated to my direct comment and it's a generic tangent off the thread further up, which is about technical issues with Claude Code. As the guid
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> Shallow dismissals like "straight up false" If something is false, which the headline is, then calling it false isn't a "dismissal", it's asserting reality . If you don't understand this, then you
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Can you please keep the unsolicited ranting out of the replies? It breaks the guidelines and degrades the value of the site. Thanks! https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html
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I'm also a fan of Pi - although, doesn't Claude code (and most other harnesses) already have "custom summarization instructions" for compaction/summarization that already allow you to do this? Or have you added on s
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Uh, the point was that a single ideology caused deaths due to socialism. Unless you think that there's a single ideology that caused all of the deaths in the countries you mentioned, then this isn't "in the spirit of fairness
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> we have things like software architecture patterns that can be discussed at a high level without knowing the intricacies I think the counterargument would be "you can't teach people architecture alone and get good architects&
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I think they didn't phrase it precisely, but my guess is the underlying idea is actually "high-level software architecture doesn't have a clear abstraction layer you can use to separate it from low-level coding (unlike logic
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