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by tabbott 8y ago
We've thought about a tree-based model, but our current thinking is that a feature of that form would add a lot of UI complexity, for fairly limited benefit. One of the key things we'd lose with a tree-based model is the ability
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Slack channels are a waste of time(zulipchat.com)
112 points by tabbott 8y ago|49 comments
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by tabbott 8y ago
Because just about every technical team needs the ability to do some sort of real-time communication, and Slack's UI is obviously better polished than the products that predate it (HipChat/IRC/etc). If you're looking for
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by tabbott 8y ago
HipChat is known for having a problematic low-level protocol (based on a fork of XMPP), it's featureset is much more limited than Slack's, and it's implemented in a different programming language. It'd be a lot less work
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by tabbott 8y ago
(I lead the Zulip project, one of the main open source alternatives to Slack.) The writing's been on the wall for HipChat for a long time; e.g. the user experience has been stagnant for many years (e.g. they never added emoji reactions
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by tabbott 8y ago
(I lead the Zulip project) When did you last try Zulip on Android? I agree it was pretty much unusable in 2017, but everyone who actively uses it agrees it's improved a lot in recent months (I use it every single day, and have a good
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by tabbott 8y ago
We're actually working on something like this in Zulip; it's advertised as "coming soon" at http://zulipchat.com/for/open-source
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by tabbott 8y ago
Those instructions are for the development environment which is simpler in a few key ways (e.g. one doesn't need to deal with SSL certificates). But yes, that'd be the starting point for a production installer for other platforms
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by tabbott 8y ago
OP here. You can learn about what makes up a Zulip server here: https://zulip.readthedocs.io/en/latest/overview/architecture... (and get a lot more detail if you browse around the rest of our 120K words of d
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by tabbott 8y ago
Having your team's core communication tool go down and be hard to bring back up can be quite painful. So as a project, we put a lot of effort into release management to minimize the risk of that happening. I personally postmortem eve
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by tabbott 8y ago
Once something is merged to master in zulip.git, it's usually on zulipchat.com production within a few days. So if you do it in a way that gets merged (which requires, e.g., automated tests appropriate for an authentication backend) an
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by tabbott 8y ago
Thanks for the feedback! I agree with some of these complaints (e.g. I very much wanted to fix the push notification registration process in this release), but I'd like to clarify a few things: * Needing an SSL certificate should not
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by tabbott 8y ago
Can you open an issue on http://github.com/zulip/zulip/issues/new ? We haven't heard similar reports in the year since the GitHub auth backend was added, so I'm guessing there's something speci
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by tabbott 8y ago
Building one's own release is easy. Before I get into how, you should be linking to https://zulip.readthedocs.io/en/1.8.0/prod.html for installation instructions -- that's the much simplified install i
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by tabbott 8y ago
We used to do that, but it turns out that having the Internet visit your chat community without any briefing isn't the best plan. Linking to the ReadTheDocs page has helped a lot in making sure people joining the community have some s
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by tabbott 8y ago
Zulip uses python-social-auth for some other backends, so for the more general version of your question about doing some other third-party auth, the answer is not super hard. That said, it looks like python-social-auth doesn't have a
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by tabbott 8y ago
We've been extremely happy with the Python 3 (with mypy static types) and Postgres stack. Like with any app, you need to take some care to design the database model right and avoid database queries in loops. But with our design, all
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by tabbott 8y ago
We're definitely planning to provide a slick explanation on zulipchat.com. Using chat.zulip.org is helpful, especially if you visit a day later and read the message history; since you really only experience Zulip's magic properly
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by tabbott 8y ago
Zulip is 100% open source; we're not playing the "open core" game that Mattermost is.
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by tabbott 8y ago
Read more closely -- it's actually the same price for each of "billed annually" and "billed monthly".
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Zulip 1.8: Free software Slack alternative with email-style threading(blog.zulip.org)
501 points by tabbott 8y ago|148 comments
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by tabbott 9y ago
Ultimately, I think the main thing that's interesting about this article is how programs for the poor have so many restrictions on what one can buy with them that can create sorta random hardships (in this case, essentially none of the
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by tabbott 9y ago
Zulip's threads are linkable and searchable. https://zulipchat.com/for/open-source has more detail on Zulip for open source projects.
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by tabbott 9y ago
Zulip | https://zulipchat.com/ | REMOTE or in person | Frontend Engineer | Full-time | SF Zulip is the leading open source alternative to Slack. Our users love Zulip because of our unique UX with threaded conversations; com
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Zulip 1.7 released (open-source Slack alternative optimized for productivity)(blog.zulip.org)
21 points by tabbott 9y ago|1 comments
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by tabbott 9y ago
> I really wish popular open source projects would just stick to IRC as it just works and doesn't require any proprietary client IRC isn't a credible alternative for most users in 2017. It stagnated ages ago, which is obvious
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by tabbott 9y ago
Clicking on a message is how you open compose to reply. Also, there are giant buttons at the bottom of the screen to compose a new one. Yes, you do need to learn a bit about how to use the tool, but that's true for any new tool.
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by tabbott 10y ago
I am the lead developer of Zulip (zulip.org), an open source Slack alternative built around a better threading model. I strongly agree with both criticisms of using Slack for open source, and I am impressed that Dave wrote this post, given
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How the Recurse Center Uses Zulip(recurse.com)
2 points by tabbott 10y ago|0 comments
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by tabbott 10y ago
Yep, see http://zulip.readthedocs.io/en/latest/prod-authentication-me...

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