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stagbeetle
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Photograph by NASA Goddard Space Flight Center / Flickr
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These are the terms our discussion was based on. You said "Freedom of speech is not a right to voice such speech wherever and whenever you want, or to be free of the consequences of such." I rebutted with authority sources sayin
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Thank you. It looks like there's been a steady up trend for gender diversity (starting from 2014), even if women to men in tech positions are 2:8. Although, the racial diversity is abysmal.
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Legally, sure. Fairly, under the United Declaration of Human Rights, or if it were a just world, no. " You could even argue that nothing in the essay was political activity, then, again, your point is moot. " I don't think so
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Discrimination in the common-sense, against political idealology and permanent factors (race, gender, etc). It's illegal to retaliate/discriminate (being fired is covered under this definition) on the basis of an employee's p
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This is true, but he still attached his name to it and that was the vein I was going in.
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I think it's for the best. Publicly publishing something that has garnered this reaction from people, it's certain he would've been the victim of discrimination and bias in his workplace. If Google's workplace is anythin
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There was a passing mention of evolutionary psychology in one of the points where the author was explaining other reasons for the gender disparity.
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As the OP, I ask this in good faith, can you link me the data?
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Ideas should (albeit this is an idealistic notion) be judged by their content, not who speaks them. I'm well off and I have white skin, yet I started in poverty and I was discriminated against for the non-western country I came from. W
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You're correct, I misread the source.
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Google is under government regulation. They cannot discriminate against others for their opinions of what they say. > "The source you provide, which is just an opinion, talks only about governments. " This is incorrect. Article
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> Whether that results in effective outcomes for the business is a different matter No, this is the topic that is being debated in this chain and "It's self evident that it's working" is not sufficient to refute the
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Being fired is a societal sanction, a.k.a a limitation on freedom of expression[0]. Private homes are not sovereign lands and neither are companies. [0] https://www.article19.org/pages/en/limitations.html
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> You're talking about taking programs that work - at least to some degree Can you justify this with data?
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> or to be free of the consequences of such. This is false. Under the United Declaration of Human Rights: "Everyone has the right to freedom of opinion and expression; this right includes freedom to hold opinions without interferen
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I think it's important to require quotes alongside so to make discussion easier, by not having to force others to read long single-spaced 14px pages, and more accurate, by allowing the discussion to narrow in on the specific points. 1)
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Can you supply examples? Twitter, by virtue of being Twitter, is not a good medium for substantive debate. The forum is the most populated one in the entire world. It is amazing for equalizing influence and allowing democratic propagation o
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"The text of the post is reproduced in full below, with some minor formatting modifications. Two charts and several hyperlinks are also omitted." Per the article itself.
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The first step is to want to help. Too many, all across the spectrum, have his mindset that people that do or think things they don't like should be destroyed and locked away from "civilized society." A common rebuttal I see
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The author is complaining that formal education is strangling the soul of beautiful English to death. There's some truth to this, although his protests are misaligned. Regimented English classes are not the proper breeding grounds for
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I have no evidence, only speculation, but it could be because boys do not receive the same type of nurture and care growing up compared to girls. As well as, anecdotally, being more likely to engage in dangerous (for the brain) activities a
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I agree with you there. If someone unintentionally offends another, an apology, followed up with extras (e.g clarification) where needed, is the correct course of action. My only gripe was with semantics, which have the potential to do more
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Thank you. I see now looking through that lense it makes sense. After re-reading my comment he was replying to I think I understand exactly what the OP was trying to convey. "If you have to consciously figure out if comments are malevo
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I believe you misread the two points you're quoting. The point of the first, is expanded upon later in the article: > Your brain may automatically make sense of someone’s movements in context, allowing you to guess what a person is
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I understand that part, but I don't understand how that sentence relates to the second: "That's why professional environments are effective and make a pleasant place to work for all." If there's a missing "if
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I'm not sure I understand what you mean. Could you elaborate on > Usually if it takes work to distinguish it's not worth it within a work environment.
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Is the primary authority's (EEOC) definition of sexual harassment: It is unlawful to harass a person (an applicant or employee) because of that person’s sex. Harassment can include “sexual harassment” or unwelcome sexual advances, req
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Intent is vital in the deliverance and sentencing of criminals (as well as severity). You'll find that the U.S.A's EEOC does not label one-off remarks as sexual harassment.[0] [0] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/
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> What "violence"? What kind of framing or mental gymnastics are you using to interpret any of those posts as "combative" or interpreted as "violence against others"? The same violence you are imposing upon
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