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> > If that means "learn your scales like every other grown-up musician" then yes I will be kind of harsh about it. That's the barrier to entry, because no one wants to hear a musician who doesn't know what they&#x
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> Getting something like the Janko keyboard to get traction in this industry is practically impossible, and not because Janko's design lacks merit. Yeah it does lack merit. It's hideous. Why don't you do a tiny bit of rese
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So far all you've done is say "I already showed you" for everything, instead of showing me anything. Except that accordion nightmare keyboard. You keep making assertions then when called on it resort to personal attacks. I sp
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6y ago
You like children's notation and theory. Not that there's anything wrong with that.
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> The same way you know which C is "middle C". No, because you just dismissed the traditional map for keyboardists.
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> Just because you are happy with an arbitrary barrier to entry does not mean that everyone around you must be. Charlie Parker was on the stage as a young lad, just learning, and didn't know all his tunes that well. At a jazz jam se
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You are still obsessing over the complexity of the major scale modes. The major scale modes. That's just the beginning for a pro player. Once you learn the modes and scales and arpeggios and pentatonics, then you have to learn (gasp!
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> Music is a wonderful thing. Anyone can learn to make it. Telling someone they need to learn their scales first is just condescending. You want to be a poet? You need to learn your language first. Same with any art form. Is it condescen
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> Nowhere did I say that musicians shouldn't learn scales. That's absurd. Yes you absolutely did. Your whole point is that 11/12ths of musicians' muscle memory is needlessly redundant. Let's see what you got that
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> messy God forbid that complex things are messy. They are, until you learn the system and can have mastery over it. You only have 1/12th the work to do as us normal musicians, so it should be much easier for you.
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> The only way Janko's keyboard is not fundamentally superior is that it isn't widely available. One could make that claim about literally anything. Maybe it just didn't resonate with the people who would have wanted to ma
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> Guitar players don't get lost! What an extraordinary claim. > Yes, and for good reason. It means the student can skip learning 11/12ths of the required muscle memory. That's a very significant, and very measurable gai
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>> you should stop thinking about it like it's a secret language meant to keep you pesky programmers out of it. > I find it's rarely a constructive thing when someone tells others how they "should" think. You&#x
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6y ago
> There is obvious room for improvement. No one believes that. Please provide evidence.
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> I'm coming from a place where I do know the jargon. That doesn't mean I have to like it. What about a hepatologist who doesn't like using "-ase" for enzyme names? What does that even mean? It's important t
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> Janko keyboard That looks like an accordionist's nightmare.
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> Learning to play a piano is hard, and it is made significantly easier by simply changing the physical keyboard layout. Still waiting for one tiny scintilla of evidence.
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> it should take thousands of hours to become a novice? It doesn't, most students are able to navigate their 12 keys by year one. Please show me one scintilla of evidence of your supposed improvements to the codebase. One. Scintilla
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> > There is no way around it > I have just presented a way. Were you willing to listen? I didn't see any practical way if you presented it, just a lot of wishful thinking. Are you saying you have an improved method for a keyb
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6y ago
> First of all, "Major" is "Ionian", and "Minor" is "Aeolian". Both are the same exact pattern of notes starting at a different point. This means that playing C Major (Ionian) involves the exact sa
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My bad, I am mixing metaphors here. I meant 'theory' as in 'the opposite of practice or experiment', not music theory. I totally agree that there are many famous and accomplished musicians who don't know any formal
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> > It's complex, because simple music is for children. > Oh, I'm a child now? Are you making simple music? You tell me.
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> There is obvious room for improvement. The syntax is not nearly as efficient as it could be. Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence. Your baseless assertion sounds confident but is backed by nothing.
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> The status quo is protected by this vain professionalism at a heavy cost. Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence. I see nothing here but a naïve attitude about the nature of music and musicians. I invite one citation as to
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> Everything is made more arbitrarily complicated when it's represented by its departure from the Ionian mode. It would be much more efficient to use the chromatic scale as a base instead. Your approach is simply not feasible. Let m
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In theory, theory and practice are the same. In practice, they're not.
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> The same goes for notation and theory verbiage. It's like we're stuck in a codebase that was started centuries ago, and everyone is too afraid to commit a bugfix, let alone a major refactor. There is no simple way of saying G
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> This attitude that worships tradition is stifling innovation. I would much rather we stopped taking it seriously. OMFG with the butt-hurt laziness. Jesus. You're taking it as the professional musician conspiracy being your mighty
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> Is Jazz serious? Baseless assertions aside, if there exists a world where jazz musicians don't have to know all their scales, plus altered dominants, plus chromatic substitutions, it would be of great interest.
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> Wanting to factor out unnecessary work isn't lazy. Agreed. As someone with a professional music background, I would simply disagree about the nature of the work involved. If reducing the workload from 144 scales to 12 helps makes
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