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runtime_terror
4mo ago
Know of any new companies that are 100% AI written that have paying customers?
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4mo ago
This is why we have a federal government. Too bad it's been gutted by decades of neoliberalism and corporate lobbying
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4mo ago
Please, tell how much energy an equal sized vineyard uses compared to a data center?
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4mo ago
Except now you're making http calls to remote servers that could be compromised.
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4mo ago
Ah yes I see, SpaceXs IPO is a thing of beauty in how insane it is.
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4mo ago
Oh for sure, our H1B visa system is a joke and is just setup for control of labor
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4mo ago
Blaming nurses and technicians feels a bit of an exaggeration. It's not as tho they're high in the hierarchy and have little say in pricing or other facets of why our healthcare system sucks. Maybe start the blame at politicians,
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4mo ago
"Just hits a button" is an incredibly reductive way to look at photography
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4mo ago
Are they? Have any examples?
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4mo ago
Yeah that was a huge red flag. Classic power tripping CEO move to arbitrarily inject a deadline for a new project mid-sprint which then forces your team to work all-nighters and still have them deliver on all their sprint work. If I worked
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4mo ago
I do think that's at least part of the strategy. The problem is that we've never seen a single product category so hyped in history, literally trillions of dollars invested. To recoup that, some not so trivial miracles will need t
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4mo ago
I agree that more uses will be found and that maybe we're not at the peak. But it also seems very clear a few players have been actively working to inflate usage numbers by margins that might take a while to replace with legitimate use
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4mo ago
Exactly. Like how Meta has a "blow our money on LLMs" leaderboard. Seems like a few companies are attempting to inflate hype enough so all the investors can exit without losing their heads. Reminds me of the crypto hype but where
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4mo ago
Yeah from my understanding they'll need to create a few trillion dollars more demand to break into profitability if we look at all the debt/obligations/contracts
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4mo ago
I'm not sure what you're talking about or referring to... I haven't heard anyone claim their S1 will show that but that it will show how poorly their revenue figures look against their costs.
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4mo ago
So then how do these companies return profits to investors?
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4mo ago
Sure, the water use is often a simplified argument against these data centers, but there are plenty of legitimate reasons but they are in fact more nuances and context dependent based on the specific location.
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4mo ago
Sure, lots of people parrot the water wasting and it's often not true, but it came out of truth. There are communities that are on water restrictions where datacenters have no such restrictions (and pay less). It's also true after
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4mo ago
I agree if you care about security it's better to DIY, it's just not simpler than say putting a file in Proton Drive
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4mo ago
Simplest? How so
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4mo ago
I'm sure there's also some number of users (like myself) that don't like the idea of a large company having access to their unencrypted files. I also found Dropbox just started take on more and more bloat in what seems an obv
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4mo ago
But isn't the parent post implying objections to datacenters is just "populist brainrot"?
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4mo ago
I'm curious peoples criteria to determine this or is it just "vibes"? Like I get it looks a lot like apps built with AI but weren't LLMs trained on real website and a metric ton of website templates? Is it possible they
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4mo ago
How will it be profitable, really? You can dismiss Ed (and me vicariously) but what's your compelling evidence to counter their extremely uphill battle towards profitability? Either way it will be very interesting to see their S1 when
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4mo ago
I do think many will move to lower cost models or self hosted over the next few years as prices balloon. And the privacy/control story is compelling. If we're able to see some big increases in hardware capabilities that can be sel
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So kinda like how stuff is now at a lot of big companies? I've worked at many different companies and almost always there are a few out-performers and a lot of people just found enough not to get fired (no hate, power to them lol). We&
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4mo ago
But explain to me how these companies will recoup these costs outside of increasing inference pricing? Their business model is selling inference but the training and other costs have to be accounted for somehow. Unless I'm missing some
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4mo ago
Obviously this is just anecdotal but over my 20+ year career I've worked with a lot of outsourced teams in India and my experience has nearly always been that they require a frustratingly specific degree of direction to product anythin
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> I'm tempted to assume that inference costs are closer to subscription pricing than to API pricing So just going on vibes? While some people don't like his content, Ed Zitron shows a lot of evidence for your assumption being v
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> The subscription token price is 10x-40x cheaper than API pricing This is a temporary phenomenon. Expect either drastic price increases or draconian throttling or both in the coming months. These companies are operating at huge loses an
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