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romwell
5y ago
>There seem to be two camps here... Third camp reporting! Here's my take (as a Bose product user): 1) Bose QC-35 II headphones are a hazardous product that, in at least one instance, has spontaneously burst into flames and caused ch
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5y ago
> You're spamming the thread with dramatic comments that are premised on this not being a one-off freak accident My bad. I've been led to believe that the batteries in these headphones are inherently dangerous and that the OP s
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5y ago
>Ok, good luck with that. After 30 or so comments I think your endless repetitions of the same bits don't contribute but just detract Repetition, my friend, is the mother of learning. My comments resulted in the OP reporting the inc
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romwell
5y ago
Thanks for saying this succinctly; I wish more people in this thread understood this.
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5y ago
>Off topic, but is there a name for peoples behavior where they barge into a topic I believe the proper name is "having one's bullshit called". And yes, when a pair of headphones self-ignites and causes bodily harm, we bet
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romwell
5y ago
>Because the burning is in the hands and arms not the nose, larynx or lungs... This isn't even a sentence, much less a coherent thought. The OP inhaled smoke from a burning device that caused chemical burns on his arms. The smoke fr
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5y ago
>You're all over this thread with one huge assumption: you have zero knowledge about how that particular set of headphones was treated so far. What's the assumption? Based on information given, the headphones exploded during n
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romwell
5y ago
Why are you bringing this up? This derails the discussion. The parent's point was that, unlike in Europe, when someone is injured by no fault of their own, the expected way for them to pay for the (very high) medical costs is to sue t
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romwell
5y ago
In a nutshell, you just described why the American Libertarian fantasy of hands-off approach that replaces regulation with reliance on the justice system and lawsuits is undemocratic. Also, note the stigma and shaming of "lawsuit-happy
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romwell
5y ago
Since whenever you don't use it to describe yourself . Especially when it's used to dismiss OP's burns, doubly so without so much as having even seen the OP. Add to this that the OP said that they were told that these are
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romwell
5y ago
You seemed to have missed the part where the same comment called the OP's concerns "unhelpful paranoia" after the OP's doctor said that the pain they're experiencing is due to chemical burns . So instead of armchai
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5y ago
>It might be my "European" upbringing, but why? Is there any indicating it was the manufacturers fault? Because we are not in Europe, and we rely on lawsuits to keep the manufacturers in check instead of having them regulated l
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romwell
5y ago
Yes, and I was highlighting that either could have been an outcome of this incident. Luckily, it wasn't the latter.
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romwell
5y ago
>I don't dispute the possibility of the burns If you don't, why bring it up? Nothing in your comment is about burns. The "I'm not saying <something>, but...." is just a roundabout way to imply <somethi
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romwell
5y ago
>That's an overstatement. Calling things that spontaneously catch on fire while being worn on one's head a lethal danger is not an overstatement. For the same reason that smoking in bed is not something you should do: and t
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romwell
5y ago
>It might already be there? Just that the warning is so standard and ubiquitous that it is universally ignored (lots of things contain lithium and have the potential to explode). No, the warning is not there.[1] The manual instructs the
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romwell
5y ago
You are, sadly, absolutely correct here. We are pushing for ranked choice voting[1], which is slowly gaining acceptance in the public consciousness. I don't think most people here were even aware of the complexities of the electoral
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5y ago
And there's not going to be a market for it even in devices which don't need large capacities, unless we force manufacturers like Bose to inform the public of the hazards of the products that they sell if they put dangerous batter
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5y ago
>But when I talk to Americans about their lack of socialised healthcare, a common response is that “I’ve earned my money, if you want your own healthcare, you get your own healthcare”. You don't seem to understand. It's those
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5y ago
>Surely the idea of the world putting some effort into producing a material that can help stop this happening isn't completely stupid...? HN, the forum of innovators who are vehemently against innovation if it's for the sake
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5y ago
Well that would be up to the courts to decide. Depends on whether Bose engineers were unaware of risks of lithium batteries to the extent that they didn't put any warnings on the product, safe from a recommendation to "remove&qu
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romwell
5y ago
>Scary. Are we, as the consumer, pushing for safer batteries? Nope, we aren't. We, as the consumer, say this on HN: >There is an inherent risk of loss of life whatever you do. We as a society just agreed that there's an acc
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romwell
5y ago
The point is, the manufacturers of safe products will have a selling point by being able to differentiated themselves. Heck, wired headphone makers will get a boost from that.
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5y ago
Well, as a non-American, you live in a country with likely stronger consumer protection laws that punish the companies that break the rules of the free market (selling hazardous products as safe in particular), to ensure that th
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5y ago
OP has experienced serious chemical burns from using Bose QuietComfort 35 II headphones. Burns that he got examined by medical professionals at the urgent care he went to that told him that his pain is due to a chemical burn. The OP i
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romwell
5y ago
Well, first, I'm not the only one. That's the recommendation of one of the top comment here as well[1]. Second, I was spamming "Report to CPSC, then talk to a lawyer". The advice to sue or not sue is not for me to ma
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5y ago
That's why I put "luxury" in scare quotes. Thanks, "premium" (also in scare quotes) is the word I was looking for.
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5y ago
>Everyone is aware of the risks, there were a bunch of stories about airplane cell phone fires a few years ago. No harm warning about these risks on the label, then? Everyone is aware, so it surely won't hurt the bottom line.
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5y ago
>It's less that I care about the their "margins" and more that I care about having headphones that aren't $600 and give me long-term neck problems from their weight. You are aware that wired headphones exist, right?
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5y ago
>1/1,000,000 chance of getting chemical burns is fine by me. That's fine by me too, and Bose should market the headphones with the description "1/10^6 chance of getting chemical burns". Then the people who don&#
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