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811.
by rezonant 3y ago
I'm well aware! At this point I think everyone is, as it seems to come up in every sub thread! That doesn't change anything about what I said.
812.
by rezonant 3y ago
Both iMessage and RCS require carrier services to register phone numbers. In iMessage' case it is an activation SMS text.
813.
by rezonant 3y ago
Well, making it a standard would not have required capitulating to the admittedly terrible carriers.
814.
by rezonant 3y ago
Actually both tapbacks (for a long time) and reply threads (since the latest iOS release) are both supported in MMS group conversations. The iPhone will send a tapback as an SMS message such as "Liked 'contents of message that was
815.
by rezonant 3y ago
Interesting, I tried to find a reference to this online but was unable. If you can find a link to such a statement let me know. What's kind of interesting about this to me is that Google was able to add encrypted messaging on top of RC
816.
by rezonant 3y ago
I think you misunderstand that quote. Prior versions of Beeper Cloud hosted Mac Minis in data centers and used genuine Apple hardware and software to automate iMessage in order to function. This quote simply says that Beeper Cloud is using
817.
by rezonant 3y ago
Yes! All I hear when entitlement comes up is "Why do you feel entitled to text message your iPhone friends if you don't use an iPhone?"
818.
by rezonant 3y ago
Google is slacking here and I hope Apple's involvement in RCS will help to move this forward. Samsung Messages also does not support Google's E2EE even though it supports RCS and pretty much all of the user-facing features Google
819.
by rezonant 3y ago
> And yes, iOS allows 3rd party apps but not nearly with enough permissions to act as a full Messages+iMessage alternative. Not an Apple user, but I imagine even though there's some allowances for third party messaging, there&#x27
820.
by rezonant 3y ago
There seems to be a huge disconnect from people who are in countries where texting is not dominant. In the US (and apparently the UK) that is not the case, and iMessage and texting more broadly are overwhelmingly dominant from all indicator
821.
by rezonant 3y ago
Well, Apple does not actually know which serial numbers have been sold. You can still buy Apple products outside of an Apple store, and even at an Apple Store, knowing which serials are sold is logistically difficult. They could probably im
822.
by rezonant 3y ago
Internet Explorer introduced a lot of new capabilities to the web platform. Those features were highly innovative and we take them for granted today. But for many of those features they did not do the work to get them standardized, or under
823.
by rezonant 3y ago
APNs is used as the backbone of iMessage, it's not an optional component. It is not just used for the push notifications you see on your phone, but for the actual delivery of the messages.
824.
by rezonant 3y ago
> In the US is it dwarfed by at least three other platforms. Do you have a source for this?
825.
by rezonant 3y ago
Or just one app that spoke a single protocol that all phones implement, like SMS used to be. That way you wouldn't have to install and juggle 20 apps to cover all of your friend's preferences, and manage which type of messenger th
826.
by rezonant 3y ago
Bottom of the page, click Beeper Cloud. They signalled that they want to move all of Beeper Cloud's features to Mini eventually and just call it Beeper. https://www.beeper.com/cloud
827.
by rezonant 3y ago
All this is fair and your accounting of the reasons for the situation around Europe match my research so far. I do want to say I've seen some others in this HN story contradict that Europe is as homogenous as your representing here tho
828.
by rezonant 3y ago
> That sounds extremely unrealistic. If nothing else, you already have GCM – I'm confused. GCM is Google Cloud Messaging. It's also known as FCM or Firebase Cloud Messaging. It is the Google Play equivalent of Apple Push Notifi
829.
by rezonant 3y ago
> So adding another protocol into the mix solves, what? Answer: nothing, it solves nothing. Another protocol like RCS? RCS simply solves the problems of SMS/MMS. It doesn't add another protocol, it ultimately replaces two of th
830.
by rezonant 3y ago
Well except that maintaining a connection to APNs is cheaper than spinning up periodic tasks to connect to APNs to check for new messages, and is exactly the same process that GCM itself uses (persistent connection), and you probably only
831.
by rezonant 3y ago
> The problem you are describing is more like a social problem, and applies to many other aspects as well. Yes! But it's a social problem created by an intentional product choice that makes their own users have a worse experience in
832.
by rezonant 3y ago
> i admire the resolve. on the other hand i think that rules out iMessage playing much role in that long-term, right? like, they're just never going to play nicely with others, it's not easy for the broader developer base to in
833.
by rezonant 3y ago
Yes, you can receive iMessages to the phone number on linked devices when the phone is off. You cannot receive SMS when the phone is off.
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by rezonant 3y ago
> I'm torn on this. Is it following the hacker spirit to get more people plugged into Apple's closed ecosystem? Maybe? Maybe not? Agreed here. But I understand deeply why it's appealing for my fellow android users who are
835.
by rezonant 3y ago
> iMessage is like Discord. It is messaging service tied to specific backend, and also devices in this case. It's different, because the only texting app on the iPhone automatically prefers iMessage. Did you make a group with 2 iPho
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by rezonant 3y ago
> but I’m using my “spare” Pixel phone more often because the software suits me better. Welcome! Pixel is all you need.
837.
by rezonant 3y ago
Only via email address. You need an iPhone to receive iMessage via phone number, and in a country where texting is dominant, you're going to be texted via that phone number, even by your iPhone friends.
838.
by rezonant 3y ago
Well actually that would be grand theft auto at least in the US. ...And unauthorized use of a motor vehicle as a second count.
839.
by rezonant 3y ago
This is excellent. Doctorow doesn't disappoint.
840.
by rezonant 3y ago
> The social graph lock in problem is well documented and well understood. > i don't actually think it is. Nitpicking but I was saying that the general social graph lock in problem (also referred to as chicken/egg) is well d

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