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ralphm
13y ago
I'm pretty fond of MCabber ( http://mcabber.com/ ), a full featured XMPP client with proper Multi-User Chat (MUC) support. I use it inside a screen(1) session, next to irssi.
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ralphm
13y ago
Sorry, but the new Hangouts does not support federation. The old GTalk network, though, does. If a message comes into the latter from non-Google servers, they only show up in connected XMPP clients, not on Android or GMail after upgrading
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ralphm
13y ago
Presence subscriptions don't have to be symmetrical in XMPP, and indeed you can even have contacts on your roster that don't share presence in either direction. As for exchanging messages, as far as I know Google's implementation is the onl
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ralphm
13y ago
Please read that first document and also my remark about SIFT, which basically allows for delaying or dropping presence to cut down on antenna use and battery consumption.
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ralphm
13y ago
At least Microsoft has XMPP federation support in Lync: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Microsoft_Lync_Server#XMPP . Otherwise, yes, Skype and Facebook should add federation support. The actual protocol isn't even that important, as long it c
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13y ago
I should have made the link to the document on XMPP on Mobile Devices more explicit: http://xmpp.org/extensions/xep-0286.html . In short, the use of compression in the TLS layer negates the oft stated verbosity of XMPP. It really isn't the
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ralphm
13y ago
I believe I get to downplay that because the federation they joined helped grow their own network, and allowed them to do Google Talk for other domains. I know many companies that have moved their XMPP stuff to Google for that. Now those ou
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13y ago
That is perfectly valid, to me. However, there is no reason to spread misinformation to cover such a decision and to bluntly cut off existing communications between people outside and inside of the Google Hangout domains. Without any warnin
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13y ago
The stated reasons for dropping XMPP (federation) support in the new Google Hangouts are startling inaccurate and misinformed. As one of the XMPP Council members, I felt a rebuttal was in order: https://plus.google.com/11627624830312127059
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Google defends its use of proprietary tech in Hangouts
(techhive.com)
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ralphm
13y ago
This isn't so much about XMPP. Dropping federation, without notice to cross-boundary contacts, is the bigger thing for me. I am personally disappointed about the whole affair, especially because there is still no clear picture on why that w
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ralphm
13y ago
I think Google Takeout is awesome, both as a concept and how it is being executed. That said, there is no takeout for Google Hangouts. I.e. with dropping federation, you can't set up your own server and reconnect to your contacts within Goo
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13y ago
While the use of XML in the protocol might be considered verbose, stream-level compression from TLS quite makes up for that. With many contacts, the number of presence stanzas might indeed drain the battery because the antenna will be 'up'