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> Perl 6 ... can even in a limited way run perl5 code. I'm curious what limits you are referring to. (Are you aware of https://github.com/niner/Inline-Perl5? )
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Larry Wall is not saying P6 will be declared "officially production ready" on Jan 31st 2015. He's saying the devs are aiming to declare that sometime in 2015, quite plausibly Dec 1st 2015 or somesuch.
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Objects ∩ Concurrency “state tends to make concurrency hard” [video]
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It's become a source of amusement over the years to watch just how useless most punditry is, in this field as in every field: http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/0691128715/sociapsych... I'v
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What about spending a few minutes exploring P6 and providing feedback about it to Larry Wall et al on #perl6? One easy way follows (for you or anyone else reading this who is curious about P6). Preferably between about noon and midnight GMT
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Check out this exchange here on HN a couple months ago following the comment "I have two programming tattoos: a Perl camel and a Ruby ruby": https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=7866845
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One way in P6: say ~ m/ '@' (.*) / for lines Ignoring the regex for now (the `/.../` bit), this reads as say (`say`) the string (`~`) that matches (`m`) for each of (`for`) the lines (`lines`). Note th
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From http://www.meetup.com/Oslo-pm/events/172566472/ "Perl 6: A Programming Language for Computer Scientists (And Other Crazy People) A good Computer Science syllabus will cover everything from bit manip
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\o/ (A response!) "First they ignore you. Then they ridicule you. And then they attack you and want to burn you. And then they build monuments to you. And that, is what is going to happen to the Amalgamated Clothing Workers of Ame
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Embedding Perl 6 in Eclipse
(donaldh.github.io)
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The domain outspeaking.com is owned by chromatic's company. Afaict chromatic was the first to promote the article with a tweet shortly after it was published and shortly before it appeared here on HN and reddit. When someone noted this
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I don't know either Ruby or Perl 5 well enough to be 100% sure of the following answers but my interest in P6 and its spec/test approach has led me to investigate the spec/test framework of several languages and their ecosyst
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Imo you are being rude. I noted what I thought was a parallel between my assessment ("breakdown of trust") and yours ("bad faith"). You may not see the connection and I may be wrong but my comment was for all readers, no
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TL;DR Imo specific evidence directly contradicts chromatic's assertions about the intentions, plans and actions of the Rakudo dev leads (Patrick and jnthn). My assessment, and chromatic's too I think, is there was a growing br
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> I'd don't quite understand how you can get away with not breaking the 'parent' grammar when you drop an arbitrary child grammar inside of it, but quite looking forward to finding out~ Rakudo, which is built on NQP,
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Sure. I wish it could be quicker and I hope it will. In the meantime I contribute as best I can.
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> if you look at the timestamps on those first commits jnthn churns out great design off the cuff and generates rapid sequences of brilliant and clear commits. I've been following #perl6 for a couple years so I've gotten used t
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> I think only some one far detached from reality would expect, a Perl 5 like ecosystem ready on the day of Perl 6.0.0 release. I think it's still plausible that someone (it'll have to be one or more serious P5 guts hackers) wi
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> Moar's development began in secret around that time MoarVM's first commit was in April 2012, a year after Parrot commits fell of a cliff. https://github.com/MoarVM/MoarVM/commit/51481efadbf5bbeb
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I hope I'm being helpful. There's definitely a glass half full / half empty dilemma with talking about P6. Let me now include a standard caveat list I created last year in an attempt to ensure balance in the force: "Perl
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> Try Scala. Aiui folk who love Perl tend to have a natural affinity for Scala. Stevan Little (the Moose and P5 MOP guy) chose Scala for Moe and I'm pretty sure he enjoyed it. I'm in to P6. ionforce, please indulge/educate
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I like Perl 6 (P6). I would like Perl 5 folk pondering P5's internals or its future to properly investigate and understand P6's role. > how about a Perl 5 interpreter for the JVM? In the opening few minutes of Patrick Michaud&#
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TL;DR Imo, for at least the next year, the P6 project needs to encourage contribution by folk who enjoy creating an entire system and discourage use by folk who just want to get stuff done. ---- I've loosely followed P6 since 2000;
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> Larry Wall decided ... declared Perl6 to be The Future(tm). Aiui it was a group of leading P5 devs that made the decision in 2000 to create a backwards incompatible P6, not (just) Larry. Similarly for Python, Python 3, and GvR. > La
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You seem very confident of your assessments. To the point you'll even suggest HNers who don't see things as you do are crazy. Are you aware of the notion that expressed confidence tends toward being inversely proportional to compe
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Have you been seriously involved with the communities you named? I'm involved in a Perl community and it is a wonderful testament to unconditional love and fun and to the productivity and persistence that's a characteristic of thi
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Using Invoke Dynamic to Teach the JVM a New Language
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> Please stop guessing at things Imo, all is fair if you predeclare ("mere armchair analysis"). > do the hard research I've spent a colossal amount of time reading P6 and Parrot mailing lists, IRC logs, etc. I'd es
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> At some point, enough people within Rakudo decided that they didn't want to be tied to Parrot forever that they wanted an alternate backend. Aiui Patrick read Larry Wall's 2001 Apocalypse #1 ( http://www.perl6.org&#
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> during that time, Rakudo and Parrot were always run by different teams Many folk have contributed to both projects. But yes, they were (and remain) separate projects, with Patrick at that time being the point person for Rakudo, not Par
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