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by overgard 2mo ago
> OpenAI Lost $38.5 Billion In 2025 > 2025 — OpenAI Had $13.07 Billion In Revenue, $34 Billion In Costs and Expenses, and $20.92 Billion In Losses, with a net loss attributable to the company of $38.53 Billion
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by overgard 2mo ago
I definitely wouldn't use a model for anything in production!
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by overgard 2mo ago
Mate, I have 20+ years of experience writing software, I'm not really worried. Frankly if I never used a model ever again I would still write software just fine. These things are conveniences to me, not load bearing.
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by overgard 2mo ago
Well, first off, I don't need to test that stuff works, the labs need to do that! I can afford to wait a couple days to get an impression on how people like a model before I switch. I don't want to be a beta tester. But honestly
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by overgard 2mo ago
I concur that there isn't that much difference between the good ones. I'm not really trying to push the limits of what they can do or anything, but I'd say on average I give it tasks about the size of something that would tak
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by overgard 2mo ago
> Just as a painter knows exactly what brush they need to use, and the craftsman carefully chooses their tools, engineers should understand trade-offs and subtleties of the different models. I'm really skeptical of this idea. Pragma
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by overgard 2mo ago
This is just a guess based off my own reading habits, but I can't help but think the average reader chooses books largely based on who the writer is. I don't necessarily mean that as a fan-boy kind of thing, but more just "I&
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by overgard 2mo ago
> The only crime here is stopping before AI replaces the CEOs and politicians. It should keep happening relentlessly until capitalism itself collapses and a post scarcity society is achieved. Dude, this is why AI boosters scare the shit
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by overgard 2mo ago
And yet Anthropic was penalized 1.5B. "Trust me bro" does not work with companies that pretty much show they can't be trusted on the daily.
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by overgard 2mo ago
These companies have already shown they're extremely reckless with copyright (Anthropic was penalized 1.5B for books, for example). I don't think they've earned that trust of "they looked at it so it must be ok"
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by overgard 2mo ago
You might need to reread that mate.
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by overgard 2mo ago
I really hope vibe coded apps have to be labeled as such so I can make sure to avoid using them. As a customer, I have zero interest in using something that was made with little care or expertise.
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by overgard 2mo ago
> A lot of people here seem to be living in a different universe than me or simply don't know how to work with AI. I think detractors believe you should just let AI do the job blindly instead of leveraging it as a tool to accelerate
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by overgard 2mo ago
To be fair, isn't the hypothetical promise of LLMs that the tool does all the thinking for you? If the AI companies are saying "delegate all your thinking", and then people delegate their thinking and it doesn't work out
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by overgard 2mo ago
Some numbers: https://www.wheresyoured.at/exclusive-openai-financials/ If those numbers are accurate, I don't think 20% is a really, really big deal. It's like saying "we're digging our grave 20% sl
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by overgard 2mo ago
The risk might be small -- but is it a risk they need to take at all? We're talking about a very mature project here that more or less needs to move at the speed of standards bodies, which is basically glacial. Being the first to imple
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by overgard 2mo ago
I don't think the concerns are far fetched at all. Look at how image models spit out copyrighted stuff all the time. Midjourney has a bizarre EULA clause that if you use it to generate images that violate copyright and _they_ get sued,
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by overgard 2mo ago
The thing they want is clear legal standing. If your submission is majority LLM generated, you can't really confirm that "your" code isn't a copy of something in the training set that has an incompatible license (or a cl
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by overgard 2mo ago
> but they didn't provide evidence so who knows. I would bet my life savings that they're either lying or delusional.
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by overgard 2mo ago
I don't know why this take is buried -- this is exactly the pertinent point to all of this.
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by overgard 2mo ago
This is such a ridiculous take I hear all the time. The shitty ethics of some people do not represent the ethics of an entire profession. Most programmers are not automating people out of jobs. I've been professionally employed as a so
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by overgard 2mo ago
I would bet the guy asked ChatGPT a question and then went "turn your answer into a blog post"
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by overgard 2mo ago
> perspective shift 1: the people that never cared about programming/engineer finally left of the room. God I wish, they've all become annoying loud "thought leaders"
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by overgard 2mo ago
I just spent the past three hours debugging a long latent bug from vibe coding a thing. The only way I found it was running a debugger through the C++ code and tracing everything -- Claude was utterly useless until I basically pointed out t
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by overgard 2mo ago
You're talking in terms of "lies", but I would say this is more "not buying the hype". I use these things every day at work and at home, I'm aware of the workflows and "how to hold it", and I just don
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by overgard 2mo ago
> the community can at least know they've done this thing to alert other model providers of the concern. "The community" you're describing is, essentially, surveillance capitalism. I don't want that at all.
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by overgard 2mo ago
> To everyone here pushing for total proliferation of open models -- what should be done about open weight bioweapon and cyber-offense capabilities? Nothing should be done. These things are trained on public knowledge. The dangerous info
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by overgard 2mo ago
This would be a disaster. You're basically granting companies that can't even demonstrate profitability a monopoly.
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by overgard 2mo ago
I think you're describing a strawman. As a proper hater, I know these things have some useful functionality, but most of us don't think "stochastic tool that can do some useful things but also frequently fucks up" is wor
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by overgard 2mo ago
Because this is all kayfabe. You cannot take a single thing these companies or people say at face value.

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