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nirga
3y ago
I wouldn't call it misleading marketing - it is what it is, similar to what you can get today from tools like Langsmith, etc - Observability for the LLM part of your system, but using your existing tools. You can further extend that to
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nirga
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You don't need to create an account in 2 services - you can just connect the SDK directly to Grafana - https://traceloop.com/docs/integration/grafana Happy to assist if needed over slack - https://
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nirga
3y ago
Hey Marc :wave: Would love to see you integrate and adopt this as soon as it makes sense to you. OpenTelemetry is a great and mature piece of technology and we should all be aligning around it now, while it’s still easy to do so.
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nirga
3y ago
The open source is free for all ofc. Our platform provides capabilities for monitoring and detecting hallucinations hence cost more.
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nirga
3y ago
Same ticket that gets you to install something like Sentry - you wanna see what's happening in production and get alerted when things go wrong
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nirga
3y ago
Thanks for the issues - I'll fix it! :sweat_smile: Reg. Grafana and others - it's simple, just set the env vars - https://www.traceloop.com/docs/openllmetry/integrations/intr...
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3y ago
Super easy - you can just use the standalone instrumentations directly - https://www.traceloop.com/docs/openllmetry/tracing/without-s...
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nirga
3y ago
Yes, Traceloop is kind of a Sentry for LLMs
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nirga
3y ago
That's interesting! tbh you're not the first engineer I heard saying that!
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3y ago
You mean that enterprises would prefer on-prem, right? But if I'm an engineer working on a large enterprise, what's the difference between a SaaS providing an on-prem option, and an OSS? It's not like I can just git clone a r
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Ask HN: How much does open source play a role when choosing a software?
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3y ago
It’s hard to build a community around an open source if you’re not on GitHub imo. And if you’re not building an open source, than iiuc GitHub can’t use your code for copilot training so the main reason for not choosing GitHub according to t
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Mistral AI releases GPT-4 like MoE model as a torrent
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Kubectl Powered by GPT
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3y ago
It amazes me that in 2023 this is not a solved problem by design of the language. Why go doesn’t adapt the “optional” notion of other languages so that if you have a variable you either know it is not null or know that you must check fo
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Evaluating LLM quality with the ROUGE metric
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It should work, but LangChain has many quirks so it can depend on which syntax you're using. Ping us on slack and we'll assist - https://join.slack.com/t/traceloopcommunity/shared_invite/zt...
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nirga
3y ago
Yes, since we're using vanilla OpenTelemetry, you can set your exporter to whatever you want, including OpenTelemetry Protocol File Exporter. But I'd still use some sort of a dashboard, like Jaeger or one of the open source observ
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nirga
3y ago
Yes, ofc. The LLM instrumentations are just like all other instrumentations.
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nirga
3y ago
Sure, would love to! I'll ping you.
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Note that these products aren't the same, even though they all fall under the category of observability - similarly to how you'd use Datadog AND Sentry, although both can be called "observability platforms". I do think v
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Thanks! Related to what you're saying, I was actually expecting some reactions from devs who'd ask "why is it a separate repo and not part of opentelemetry from day 1?". And for that my answer would be that I think havin
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Wow, where do I start? The APIs are not that similar, but we're trying to use the same set of semantic conventions for everyone so for example you'll always get the model version, or the temperature in the same attribute. Which ki
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Yes, only traces for now. We do want to send out metrics for prompt length, token usage, etc. like you mentioned. Hopefully will be available soon (and we welcome contributions :) )
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2 differences: 1. You don't have instrumentations for libraries like OpenAI, LangChain, etc. so you need to manually open spans 2. As you said, there are no semantic conventions for logging things like prompts and chains. What we did i
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but it's open! :)
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Show HN: OpenLLMetry – OpenTelemetry-based observability for LLMs
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Ask HN: TypeScript or Python for LLM Apps?
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4y ago
Yes, it's exactly the same setup. I think OpenTelemetry gives a whole world of possibilities you can build on top which are much more than just observability.
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nirga
4y ago
We're creating the backend equivalent of what cypress is doing. So in cypress you're generating FE tests where you click buttons and assert on FE components. Our framework can do that for checking BE flows. Let's say a user r
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