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nchmy
1y ago
Finally a good-faith reply! I concede that my original comment here was somewhat hostile, but only really the first line. And it wasn't even all that hostile - especially when the rest of the comment was really just informative and pos
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1y ago
Full disclosure: I'm a happy and grateful user and purchaser of the datastar pro license. And it's not a company, it's literally 3 guys who have a 501c3 non profit, and actively dissuade people from buying the pro license bec
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1y ago
Except the pro option is not "a few years later" it's available in pre-v1 and is a one-time lifetime purchase, not a subscription. And the framework and docs are so small and simple, that you can read the entire site in an ho
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1y ago
This is exactly what is done here. They're emphatic that most will/should never need the pro features.
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1y ago
What is it that you think is the most heavily presented feature that is actually behind a paid addin? Because they're quite vocal about the fact that most people should not ever need the pro license... They actively dissuade people fro
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1y ago
No, it's the entire point of datastar - that you don't need much JavaScript at all because some simple html attributes do most of it for you, and any extra can either go in-line, or you can also just fallback to separate js script
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1y ago
I was just commenting to someone yesterday how it's a testament to how refined this is that he's been working hard for over 2 years to produce such a small amount of code. I can only imagine how many variations he's gone thro
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1y ago
You can use datastar with ANY backend and templating system that you want - you just have to return html with the appropriate (and standards-compliant) attributes and, optionally, js expressions. Use php, python, rust, or anything else that
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1y ago
And yet, most frontend frameworks barely on even the simplest of sites. This is not only well documented, but most of them have now moved towards some sort of SSR hybrid - at great complexity cost.
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1y ago
What a world we're living in - I point out that a hostile comment is hostile, and I'm labeled hostile. Once again, they aren't charging anything. Pay them if you want some largely-unnecessary features, or if you just want to
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1y ago
I don't understand what point you're trying to make. He shared examples of some immensely dynamic apps that are running on a potato and survived HN, showing that this simplifies things greatly and can scale. Hypermedia-first is a
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1y ago
What here has been reinvented? There's nothing out there like datastar. Htmx + alpine is similar, but much heavier and less functional. And God forbid someone try to make open source sustainable by charging for largely-unnecessary func
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1y ago
This and other negative, yet argument-free, comments about datastar are what seem unnatural to me...
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1y ago
Datastar itself is written in TypeScript... And it is completely agnostic as to what language or approach you use in your backend, so long as you render html with the appropriate (web standards-compliant) attributes and expressions. Use ts,
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1y ago
It can be, but doesn't need to be. It's highly compatible with cqrs and event driven in general, usually done with sowmthing like a pubsub event bus (NATS is most often used). Whether you want to go all the way to event sourcing i
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1y ago
I don't know about a detailed comparison, but datastar basically does everything those do combined, but in a smaller, simpler package. It also sticks to web standards as closely as possible (whereas htmx is trying to propose it's
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1y ago
If you are truly offline, then of course this won't work. Though, it is certainly possible to cache pages since most sites do not need persistent state - it's just ephemeral things like toggling a button, linking an input box and
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1y ago
They're completely comfortable with and unapologetic about the model. And they're not hiding anything.
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1y ago
What a weird comment. Why bring this up unless you're just trying to make them look bad in a dishonest way? It is clearly documented on the site in multiple places. Moreover, they actively dissuade people from even buying the pro lic
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1y ago
Nailed it. This guy has a humility (and probably also critical thinking/communication) problem, not an AI one.
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1y ago
I'm also curious about this. And, even moreso - did apple just start designing chips from scratch or did they buy someone who already had some cutting edge technology? Its hard to believe that they're beating everyone just out of
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1y ago
are you aware of any "ai journalists"? Because simonw does great work, so perhaps blogger is what people should aspire towards?
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1y ago
Strongly agree with this
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1y ago
Arroba is commonly used in Guatemala and signifies 25lbs (roughly 11.3kg)
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1y ago
Yeah, he's a lunatic and/or grifter for that and many other reasons
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1y ago
Yeah, I have no doubt that he's got some good insights, but its crystal clear that he's just hyping it all up as part of a grift. I get serious Alex Jones vibes from him I've tried to listen to a few podcasts and read some ar
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1y ago
I found him in the same way, and thought he was interesting and insightful. But I tried listening to some of his podcasts and read his articles, but just could not suffer them at all. Tech Wont Save Us is worth people's time though - g
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1y ago
yeah, its an absolute monstrosity of a site. Many of the images didnt even load for me.
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1y ago
That would be great to see. Likewise more details about your custom compression settings.
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1y ago
I'm all for reducing dependencies, but why is curl, of all things, catching strays here? Utterly bizarre rant.
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