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   by mondrian 3y ago

   I don’t have experience with Django but this sounds interesting, I’ll do some research. In general, being able to integrate Hyperdiv selectively into existing stacks would be cool. Currently you could probably do it with an iframe, which wo
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   by mondrian 3y ago

   It seems in nicegui you build the initial UI, and then mutate various parts of it in event callbacks. It seems similar to traditional dom programming. Hyperdiv expresses UI declaratively based on state. As state changes, the app re-runs, pr
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   by mondrian 3y ago

   Thanks! What do you mean by async? At one point Hyperdiv’s frontend was using Svelte and Svelte Material UI components. I explored other options before settling on shoelace. Shoelace stuck primarily because it’s very solid and uniform. Ran
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   by mondrian 3y ago

   Thanks! Everything happens on the server. The client is a dumb client that just applies incoming patches to the browser dom.
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   by mondrian 3y ago

   Thanks! I like your project! Similar idea, indeed.
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   by mondrian 3y ago

   Hyperdiv uses one thread per connection and it’s true that a Python process may not be great at running a very large number of threads. Currently you can scale a Hyperdiv app horizontally by running it in multiple processes (on multiple mac
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   by mondrian 3y ago

   Thanks! I need to do more research on the available HTML over the wire protocols. In principle Hyperdiv can easily send HTML strings instead of its custom JSON format.
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   by mondrian 3y ago

   Thanks! I will do that.
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   by mondrian 3y ago

   As far as comparing to Reflex: In a nutshell, Reflex statically compiles the app to Javascript, which then runs in the browser. Event handlers and state changes happen in Python, and UI logic happens in the browser. By contrast, Hyperdiv ru
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    by mondrian 3y ago

    Thanks! Currently you can’t create a new “base” component with custom html/javascript, short of adding it to the hyperdiv source code. I’m working on adding third party component support.
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    by mondrian 3y ago

    Thanks! There’s no file upload component currently but I plan to add it soon.
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    by mondrian 3y ago

    I plan on putting those online. I haven't yet set up the hosting infrastructure to serve Hyperdiv apps off my linodes. That and some of the demo apps are currently designed as local apps that edit local files on disk, and/or not y
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    by mondrian 3y ago

    Thanks! Pue looks cool, thanks for sharing. I see some similarities to https://reflex.dev in terms of providing a declarative dom expression language with built-in conditionals and loop primitives.
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    by mondrian 3y ago

    Ahh thank you! I fixed it.
15. 105.▲
    by mondrian 3y ago

    Thanks! I appreciate the feedback and plan to host the docs app on the website in the future.
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    by mondrian 3y ago

    Thanks! > htmx being involved I think it's possible. Hyperdiv uses a custom DOM patching system but I could imagine it being swapped for an existing HTML over the wire tech.
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    by mondrian 3y ago

    Yikes, what browser/os? Had a hard time repro-ing.
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    by mondrian 3y ago

    Thanks! I am really interested in this topic, and I think it's really promising. I've experimented with showing GPT-4 how Hyperdiv works via examples and was impressed by how well it was able to produce new apps, and even infer pa
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    by mondrian 3y ago

    Thanks! I plan on putting the demo apps and docs app online.
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    by mondrian 3y ago

    Thanks! Streamlit is really cool and is obviously mature and successful. It seems to be influenced by Jupyter notebooks and data science practice. It aims to be like Jupyter notebooks but in code? Correct me if I'm wrong. Hyperdiv is a
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    by mondrian 3y ago

    The task system uses a thread pool as well as an ioloop. So tasks can be normal functions as well as `async def` functions/coroutines. You can also pass in a custom executor and use processes instead of threads. Thanks for the feedback
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    Show HN: Hyperdiv – Reactive, immediate-mode web UI framework for Python(github.com)

    170 points by mondrian 3y ago|83 comments
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    by mondrian 3y ago

    Yeah that's true. You need the data from both the ISP and reddit, and correlate using timestamps from both sides. That's true of VPNs, too. If multiple people with the same external IP were browsing reddit around the same time, th
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    by mondrian 3y ago

    Btw doesn't increasing adoption of CGNAT [1] render useless these types of attempts to identify people based on IP address? A CGNAT IP address identifies multiple households. [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carri
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    by mondrian 3y ago

    Does copyright law say you can ingest copyrighted work at very large scale and sell derivates of those works to gain massive profit / massive market capitalizations? Honestly wondering. This seems to be the crux issue here.
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    by mondrian 3y ago

    Immediate mode is a fuzzy concept, as witnessed by this writeup: https://github.com/ocornut/imgui/wiki/About-the-IMGUI-paradi...
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    by mondrian 3y ago

    Users can have an app in multiple tabs though, and apps can read/write local storage in the background.
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    by mondrian 3y ago

    Looks cool. This is kind of like streamlit, which (I think) tried to escape the limitations of notebooks by giving you an API to quickly make a shareable app with sliders/charts etc. (Yet it retains some notebook concepts like 'ce
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    by mondrian 3y ago

    Yeah, sorry, it's using CSS parts for customization. So if a component is made up of multiple nested containers, you can target the inner containers with ::part(name).
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    by mondrian 3y ago

    I guess the advantage is that you can drop them into any HTML page and they look and work correctly. And you can control them with plain JS, like `document.getElementByID(dialogId).open = false;`