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moloch-hai
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> Only English speaking white people tend to be hierarchal? No. But all your experience in the world is in hierarchies. You have no relevant experience to draw on.
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moloch-hai
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Only you and goatszx seem put out. And, really, do you expect a post here to make a case that took almost 600 book pages to express properly?
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moloch-hai
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Pretty representative material. Of course various people differ in detail. https://independent.academia.edu/RichardCarrier Unfortunately he really would rather you buy his books than read his blog posts, so they are hard to
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moloch-hai
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I probably confused matters with my undefined expression "actual numbers". e and pi are as actual as i or 0. I think Turing introduced "computable numbers" which are a lot like the reals, but countable. You can write a
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moloch-hai
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This is a strange take. Every last program ever written is a state machine. The number of possible states a program represents is normally very, very large, and the transition rules are very complicated and often mixed up with, e.g., multip
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Real numbers almost always give the same result as more cumbersome methods, and we are mostly only interested in such results, so it is surprising when something wacky shows up to remind us of the tightrope we walk.
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moloch-hai
4y ago
Read it or don't. If you don't want to read, look it up on youtube. You are not obliged to educate yourself, but pretending to education you haven't will reliably solicit unwelcome responses.
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moloch-hai
4y ago
Yucca mountain is, in fact, not an "approved and operating permanent nuclear waste storage facility in the US with all the waste waiting in temporary holding facilities having been placed there". It is not even "approved an
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I am fully on board with considering the value of the text regardless of its provenance, and with measured skepticism about all received documents, ancient or modern. Best evidence is that actual physical existence of a Jesus in Palestine i
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It's the wackiest result I know of, and seems overwhelmingly more profound than BT.
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They are not numbers you have ever used in an actual calculation. You always approximate them anyplace they don't cancel out. There is a countable subset of the reals called "computable numbers". We only ever use a subset o
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I am not a Platonist, or any sort of theist. e and pi arise in axiomatic systems we use to approximate our world. They never appear in nature. They do appear in formulas we find to approximate details of our world. I say "actual number
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The topic is a book called "The Dawn of Everything". Not reading the book, and then insisting that all the examples presented in the 692-page book do not exist, is not a good look.
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4y ago
Presidents, popes, and dictators-for-life exist, too. That does not mean that every organized group of people needs one. If you want examples, read the book. It is right there .
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moloch-hai
4y ago
I expect zinc is still cheaper than magnesium. The surprising figure I recall was that the weight of zinc in an offshore wind turbine installation was close to half the weight of iron in it.
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moloch-hai
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You now insist that no hilltop pumped-hydro storage without a river exists? It is an odd choice of falsehood to insist upon, when it may so easily be looked up.
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> But those higher prices have to be sustained to keep those additional operations profitable. That is not, in fact, the case. A higher price need persist only long enough to pay the capital cost of developing the resource. The million
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No batteries, anyway. So any generated power not pushed back to the grid is wasted.
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You have an abstract definition of a sequence of digits, and an algorithm that reveals an actual digit from among them. It is surprising that you don't need to approximate an infinite series to get it, but everybody agrees that digit w
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That is the doctrine we are taught, anyway.
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How many of these groups were of people who did not grow up with fixed hierarchies, and so had developed organizational skills that did not rely on one? A hierarchy is the laziest choice among ways to organize.
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Jordan Peterson can choose his examples as cleverly as he likes to advance his biases to uncritical listeners.
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That is a symbolic manipulation. Wherever it comes down to actual numbers, you use adequate approximations to infinite summations for x and iy. Even nominally exact rational values are often idealizations of measurements: your house has no
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There have been myriad societies that consciously chose to dispense with hierarchy, others where hierarchy applied only to one sphere (e.g. religion) and nowhere else, ones where different hierarchies applied in different spheres, and many
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Finitely many pieces, but on infinitely variable boundaries. It was clever to make the proof allow a finite number in that place. Without, it would have attracted no attention.
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No human or computer has ever used an actual real, transcendental number in any computation. It would take infinitely long.
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Hierarchies are not, in fact , "heavily part of human behavior". They appear in certain circumstances, and dissipate when the circumstances do. G&W point out that we are brainwashed otherwise. I see it as a case of learned he
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You miss the point. Yes, hunter/gatherer societies routinely lack hierarchies. But settled populations, throughout prehistory and history, have very often also lacked hierarchies, including in places historians insisted otherwise. An
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We need not pretend Graeber advanced any notion that hierarchies have never existed in undocumented populations. His point is that they were often lacking in circumstances historians routinely assume, and vociferously insist, hierarchy must
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4y ago
One of the authors dying during editing can reasonably be expected to have some effect.
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