maxbond

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by maxbond 4mo ago
Not sure what you want from me, if you want to explain yourself I'll listen, if you don't that's fine too.
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by maxbond 4mo ago
I agree that is the mode of argument; reductio ad absurdum is a brittle argument, because it only works if the analogy holds. I argued the analogy doesn't hold.
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by maxbond 4mo ago
If you didn't mean to say that people who believe AI is conscious are delusional, then I don't understand how to read your comment. If you're interested in a good faith conversation, I'm very confused why, when I asked i
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by maxbond 4mo ago
Positive, yes. I never called you a luddite or a neanderthal or anything of the kind. It's perfectly fine to believe they are not conscious, I am not convinced they are, but asserting anyone who disagrees with you is delusional is unfo
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by maxbond 4mo ago
I never said you couldn't write any arbitrary compelling story about a toaster, I said that this specific hypothetical story, where you rewrite "They're made of meat!" to be about a toaster, would not be compelling. I am
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by maxbond 4mo ago
You've misunderstood me; I have not made the argument you are responding to.
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by maxbond 4mo ago
Their being statistical models and their being conscious are not contradictory unless proven otherwise. That's not knowledge, it is assumption. It would appear to me you have no interest in a real, good faith discussion on this topic b
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by maxbond 4mo ago
Who have you ever heard make a sincere, good faith argument that a toaster is conscious? Who do you imagine would argue against you if you asserted they were mere automata? If you can't identify anyone, then this analogy doesn't w
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by maxbond 4mo ago
I don't think you understood the point of the story. It's not that LLMs or agents are conscious, it's that our dismissal of the possibility is reflexive and uninformed. Personally I think anyone who has made their mind up abo
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by maxbond 4mo ago
You can't do the same with a toaster. Physically you could write that story. But it would fall flat because the toaster is not a compelling subject in a discussion of consciousness. You don't have to believe that LLMs or AI agents
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by maxbond 4mo ago
The story is not about how they function, it's about how we relate to them.
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by maxbond 4mo ago
Completely unevidenced conspiracy theories can only harm the discussion. The only possible benefit is to disconfirm conspiracy theories and discourage paranoid thinking. The odds that Standford as an institution are astroturfing on HN round
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by maxbond 4mo ago
Yes, mea culpa. Occasionally I break that rule on my own judgement. Feel free to flag my comment. (I think it's important to disconfirm conspiracy theories.)
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by maxbond 4mo ago
Just so you know, I have nothing to do with Stanford, but I am flagging this as conspiratorial nonsense. So when you comment is flagged, I just want you to know that it doesn't confirm your belief, it's just that this comment harm
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by maxbond 4mo ago
Nondeterminism is a red herring. There is a bright line between instructions and data right now, in virtually every transcript format. That we have not succeeded in training an LLM to respect it to a very high degree doesn't imply it
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by maxbond 4mo ago
> ALL context/prompt is instructions, there is no data. It is just unsolvable, period. That really isn't true. There's no law of physics preventing you from having separate data and instruction inputs to models. The model&
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by maxbond 4mo ago
I don't see where they said that; could you give me a quote? It does not seem to me that they are addressing humans at all, except as a foil to LLMs.
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by maxbond 4mo ago
I read the misanthropy as ironic. They're applying the same reductionist logic to humans, not because they are misanthropic, but to illustrate that it doesn't help us understand the case we can all agree on. "Humans aren&#x27
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by maxbond 4mo ago
That is not knowledge, that is assumption. Let's assume we have infinite memory with constant time lookups. With a sufficiently large lookup table, you could exactly replicate the behavior of any person. You could encode it as a next-t
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by maxbond 4mo ago
My experience teaching is limited (but I have taught some, to be clear) but I have found learned helplessness to be the biggest barrier. People have varying aptitudes for different tasks, and varying aptitude and a finite lifespan does impl
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by maxbond 4mo ago
They said they saw the wires through the window. Presumably they didn't enter the unit.
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by maxbond 4mo ago
I don't understand the alternative, that it would be legal to break the law as long as it were a petty crime and you were being paid to do it? It's a principle, it applies broadly. We tend to think about it in terms of the most dr
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by maxbond 4mo ago
No, this isn't a generational thing, if you don't see the problem with trashing someone's house (let alone doing so to the tune of $12k) that is a comment on your values alone.
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by maxbond 4mo ago
I don't think GP disagrees with you. They said it wouldn't be a good idea if they had been honest. Elsewhere they call for the employees to face charges.
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by maxbond 4mo ago
"Move fast and break other people's things."
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by maxbond 4mo ago
Why would you do this now that we have auto mode?
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by maxbond 4mo ago
I can imagine someone who xollects Labubus feeling insulted or patronized, but they are not lifting a finger to stop them from buying a Labubu. They are just publishing their thoughts. Their thoughts happen to contain moral judgements, that
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by maxbond 4mo ago
Every defensive primitive you deploy is a potential offensive primitive for an attacker. Like the perennial denial of service issues in fail2ban type tools. You want to ban bots scanning your service, but that becomes a way for attackers to
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by maxbond 4mo ago
You could apply this same logic to your comment. "If Labubu discourse makes them happy, who cares? It's their life." We should live and let live but that doesn't preclude discussion.
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by maxbond 4mo ago
They were grandfathered in, not voted on. Or rather there was a vote that resulted in adopting the character sets developed by Japanese telecoms en masse.

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