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masondixon
9y ago
Every headline on this story has been misleading. When I read it I thought to myself - this is the first thing I really disagree with Trump on...but reading on: > The supplemental questionnaire will only be given to “a fraction of 1% of
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masondixon
9y ago
You think the internet would be just as efficiently run if the government controlled it without a profit incentive? I think the left are naive to how lazy people are without the right incentives, and how without a monetary incentive office
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masondixon
9y ago
I think liberals' judgement is bad. They thought they would win the election and did not.
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masondixon
10y ago
My apologies. But it is a reference to my earlier sentence where I add: "If they break the law, then they get punished. But its their private property." The point I am making is that I think its better to leave someone's priv
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masondixon
10y ago
Its comes down to inconveniencing all the passengers because one person doesn't comply. As a passenger I would appreciate someone being removed like they were. Otherwise what if I am the next person chosen to get off the plane. If I we
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masondixon
10y ago
> That's a direct copy/paste from your comment. Sorry, I cannot find me ever saying that.
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masondixon
10y ago
What if he runs on the plane? What is the difference?
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masondixon
10y ago
Watch the video. He is literally screaming. Why would you refuse an order from the police. I think its an ideological difference, but I can't imagine refusing or resisting police. I think young people today get kicks from refusing auth
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masondixon
10y ago
What is the difference? One guy got to walk down a corridor and sat down in his seat. The other guy didn't. It is the same.
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masondixon
10y ago
If you don't allow law enforcement to do their job, the world would grind to a halt. If the flight was cancelled because of this guy, I think the passengers would quickly turn on him.
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masondixon
10y ago
Interesting point. But I see the after boarding vs. before boarding to be essentially the same. Say the passenger forced his way on the plane after being bumped. Is this any different?
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masondixon
10y ago
What's a little bit extra? I don't even pay 30$ to choose my seat.
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masondixon
10y ago
And obey authority.
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masondixon
10y ago
I said: "Its their private property and they need to be able to do as they please. If they break the law, then they get punished. But its their private property." You said I said: "Its their private property and they can do a
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masondixon
10y ago
We can both say what we think both parties should have done, but this is entirely subjective and would come down to ideological differences and feelings. > Where United went wrong This is where we can find some truth to the matter. What
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masondixon
10y ago
Nice story. But I don't want to be on that plane or live in that society, and I am happy that the US police still have the guts to enforce the law and follow orders.
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masondixon
10y ago
> we should never directly challenge the request of anyone in a position of authority because we can then address it in the courts later in a fair and civilised manner...as a blanket statement that it's always better to obey, no mat
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10y ago
> I completely agree that once they say, "get out or we'll take you out," you should get out peacefully, and pursue any remedy afterwards. Cool :) > and that United never should have tried to force him off. But once you
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masondixon
10y ago
I was responding to your "That's no guarantee." statement.
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masondixon
10y ago
> Passengers _were_ negotiating I mean after involuntary bumping which is allowed after making an offer for voluntary bumping which is not required to be negotiated. By "negotiation" it means they can offer free flights or vouc
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10y ago
> but you seem to be applying them only to one side. I guess the principle I am arguing for is when one side is prepared to use physical force (which they believe is justified) to remove someone from their private property, then the &quo
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masondixon
10y ago
Ok "completely free market approach" was a bad statement. A "generous free market approach" maybe is better, as the penalty for bumping is steep.
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10y ago
> But they should definitely have offered cash instead of vouchers. They are allowed to offer vouchers or free flights. https://www.transportation.gov/airconsumer/fly-rights Should the law be different. Maybe. But t
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10y ago
I mean once they decide someone should not be on the flight. Most people would just do as they are told and seek compensation or pursue in courts. Mistakes happen, but most people don't seek physical confrontation. Society doesn't
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10y ago
> You know what trumps United's Contract of Carriage? Agree. > clearly legally obligated to have offered AT LEAST $1,030 Disagree. It says they can negotiate with the customer: "Airlines may offer free tickets or dollar-amou
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10y ago
> If done involuntarily, both are effectively theft. You sign a contract when you buy a ticket. You willingly agree to the terms. Can you make a contract that someone can steal from you? No. > When denying boarding or removing a passe
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10y ago
> then I think he was right to resist being removed from the flight. See I don't agree with this. Its an argument for vigilantism. The courts are the appropriate place for this to be disputed. Private property and law enforcement sh
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10y ago
I see the difference between denied boarding and deplaned as legalistic. Its essentially the same thing. Overbooking is legislated. Don't like it, change the legislation. I have been in situations where I am offered $800 to be voluntar
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10y ago
> Pre-boarding bumping is legal. There's some discussion about whether post-boarding bumping is legal, with many people saying it isn't. Honestly, I see no difference regarding the intention of the law. Essentially it is the sa
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10y ago
> Another problem, as (if you had read the article) United is _required_, by the DOT, to offer at least up to $1350. "Request for Volunteers UA will request Passengers who are willing to relinquish their confirmed reserved space in
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