mamcx

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by mamcx 5y ago
I'm building a spiritual successor of the dBase/FoxPro family of languages with modern ideas, what I hope become a better alternative to Access/Excel (so, not just the base lang, but the UI builder + Data engine. Just askin
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by mamcx 5y ago
> I've a feeling it would require a fair bit more work to maintain with simple changes having quite a large spread through the codebase due to the strong typing I'm porting my Rust codebase to async, and that is SUPER infective
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by mamcx 5y ago
> I am not looking for a language that is too theoretical, like Haskell. Rust is not "theoretical", but have some theory applied to great effect. The comparison to Haskell is more in the use functional idioms, algebraic types,
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by mamcx 5y ago
I love Rust, but rust being slow annoy me to not end, MUCH more than his complexities. I have worked in Pascal(Delphi), that is a bit more useful in catch issues at comptime. Being able to iterate quickly is also a way to fix errors witho
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by mamcx 5y ago
> whereas Rust is more comparable to C++ That only in matter of complexity. If rust were actually comparable to C++ it will a major mess. Rust is actually a ML + C + Haskell-ish lang..
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by mamcx 5y ago
Yeah, not bad. Another one, because look like you are looking for inspiration: https://www.elementscompiler.com/elements/oxygene/language.a...
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by mamcx 5y ago
Ok, maybe stupid: why the core is in C and not Rust? Easy to targeting?
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by mamcx 5y ago
> have intentional design complexity? yes, more like this (in special Rust, that deal with many challenges like system programming, safety, etc).
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by mamcx 5y ago
The Pascal family could benefit by a bit more of brevity, but I trade the syntax of it to C-like langs like Rust any day. They are not that less verbose at the end: Is only in the "small" that look compact.
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by mamcx 5y ago
> but I find the complexity with the type system off-putting Yeah, is it. But "complexity" is fine: Complex is better than complicated. - [Zend of python](https://www.python.org/dev/peps/
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by mamcx 5y ago
Working in a GENERAL relational language (ie: not just a query one, like SQL, but general to make full apps, like python/delphi/c# + linq): https://tablam.org that is my attempt to resurrect the spirit of the FoxPro&
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by mamcx 5y ago
Honestly, the best way to input dates is to have 3 fields (with the labels of y, m, d) and let the user INPUT the date.
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by mamcx 5y ago
I work in a relational lang as hobby. I have seen as many sql replacements as I can, and most commit some or many problems. The biggest one, IMHO, is they stay as constrained to be "just a query lang" removing any hope to be usefu
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by mamcx 5y ago
Even then, you have better options (main one: pascal). P.D: My main gripe is not about why C was made how is made. Is that it STAY like that until now. It must have been deprecating dangerous stuff long ago...
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by mamcx 5y ago
> Personally, I'm tired of people bitching about C ... There was no other choice in the 1970's. This in fact prove the opposite. People not complain hard enough about how much terrible C/C++ are. 1970: That is more than 50
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by mamcx 5y ago
One branch that was super-popular in the day was the dbase family (I work in FoxPro, it was THE dream). Working in Fox dispel many of the weird limitations of sql (and BTW, you can use SQL on Fox alike linq, is first-class). The #1? You can
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by mamcx 5y ago
My first (developer) job was in a small software firm that sell a school management app (around 2000). We need another dev, and i was in charge of check them. A very simple interview: make a single CRUD form for a database, in FoxPro, that
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by mamcx 5y ago
You wanna get crazy? When you hit: - a ERP You start to build all the others! (This is where I'm now!)
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by mamcx 5y ago
> that makes it difficult to manage your compilers and libs on macOS A failure of the C/C++ toolchain, mostly.
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by mamcx 5y ago
Yeah, but then why not make it the only one? One reason is that proc-macros can "see" the syntax outside the point of declaration(or enclosed). This means you must do macro_rules! {struct.... } instead of declare the struct first
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by mamcx 5y ago
Do you have uses Pascal? The ones that used it like it...
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by mamcx 5y ago
Totally! This is one of the best features of the pascal family: http://www.delphibasics.co.uk/Article.asp?Name=Sets (look in "SubRanges")
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by mamcx 5y ago
My dream is enter in this space with a version of Access+Excel in the spirit of the old foxpro/dbase tools. I have a sketch of the lang side here: https://tablam.org A big problem is that get funding outside of USA is not t
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by mamcx 5y ago
Sure, neither Rust. But the things that make Rust safe are not that much slower. Macros, Generics, all that syntax, all that lang complexity (ie: Not just the semantics but the way is surfaced) have a bigger impact.
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by mamcx 5y ago
Macros. This is a major pain. I wish it get more attention (and hopefully: How about a SINGLE way to do macros? Like zig?). Serde is another killer on compiling speed.
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by mamcx 5y ago
ADA. This is a false(ish) dilema. The problem of Rust is that is made with a C++ mindset. Is VERY hard to make compiler fast if it follow what C/C++ do (Go is the only evidence against!). Is a death by thousands cut. The syntax is the
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by mamcx 5y ago
For people like me, that worked in FoxPro, this is the dream. Despite the claim this kind of tools is for "basic CRUD" they could do much more, much better, precisely because can deal MUCH better with the most challenged kind of p
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by mamcx 5y ago
No. But is very surprising when you see Rust how high-level is as language yet it target system programming . One major philosophy aspect of Rust is that (almost)everything is explicit and you build abstraction from the bottom.
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by mamcx 5y ago
I like Swift a lot, and if Apple were smarter and support linux/windows/android i will not move to Rust. But swift have a lot of "magic". The major advantage of Rust, the biggest one for a system language, is how explici
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by mamcx 5y ago
Great. One step closer to raise our mice overlords.

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