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I think that Sinatra will become increasingly popular within the Ruby community (and financial help from Heroku/Salesforce can't hurt!), but I also think it's interesting that the micro-frameworks inspired by Sinatra (Flask for Python, Expr
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Absolutely agreed. I really love JavaScript for a lot of reasons, but it still astonishes me that that our lingua franca was designed in 10 days. In 1995. For NETSCAPE. I'm not so sure I would describe the mishmash as unambiguously depressi
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1. I wouldn't want to do anything at a meaningful level of complexity without templates. No question about it. And I think that having so many templating frameworks is wonderful (ERB, Jade, haml, etc.). I was only arguing that PHP lets you
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I agree, but just out of curiosity: what do you think would be the language of choice beyond JS for the browsers of the future? I honestly don't have a clue. I might guess Python because it's so big at Google and Chrome is already more or l
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Right right right. I would add this: Ruby could well be considered "passé" someday (history tells us it necessarily will be), and the Rubyists of the future would really bristle at the suggestion that what they're doing is worth less simply
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Exactly. Correspondingly, my hope (along with one of the folks below) is that advances in hardware will obliterate any speed difference and enable the back end to be king. Time will tell.
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You could be right about these numbers becoming meaningless. But in the meantime, there is a noticeable difference, and that can mean life or death in the jam-packed web dev market that we see today. If cramming as much application logic as
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Nice to see PHP get some love from polyglots!
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No, "absolutely everywhere" is not an argument by itself. But sometimes ubiquity is earned. If Facebook powered its front end using FORTRAN, I would call it a quiet powerhouse, too!
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I certainly didn't mean to say that languages like Python and Ruby are inflexible! What I meant to say is that you can't use either of them in direct conjunction with HTML the way that you can use PHP. This was what I meant when I said "gen
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Well said. RESTfulness will ALWAYS have its place, and blogs are the example par excellence. Even in Node, which prides itself on its async/non-blocking capabilities, there are all kinds of ways to incorporate REST.
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And now I'm doing some research and finding Catalyst and others. Looks like there's more going on in Perl web dev than I realized. Foot.in.mouth.
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That said, I am indeed among the people keeping my fingers crossed for a Perl renaissance in web development.
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Maybe. I actually like Perl a lot, and there are lots of things you can do with it that you'd never want to use PHP for. The difference is that in the world of web development (and this is the crucial distinction here), Perl has neither the
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I'm not convinced that it will fade, especially given the rise of mobile devices (as the gentlemen has already pointed out) and what I expect will be a marked improvement in browsers in the coming years (Google Chrome/V8 is a good example).
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"Scalable, reliable and robust." Couldn't have said it better myself. Thanks.
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I think you're right about a lot of things. Things like Backbone (which I wrote about at http://blog.appfog.com/putting-some-mvc-meat-into-your-app-b... ) will make recourse to the back end more and more selective as time goes by. JavaScri
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It depends on how you define powerhouse. Is PHP my favorite language or framework? No. But the use cases I provide show that it's worthy of consideration. Perl, on the other hand...
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1. The gentleman's comment was indeed quite curious, and I wish that I could have used this info as a comeback. Thanks! 2. Direct HTML embedding could be seen as a weakness, yes, but that all depends on the kind of project. That's why I des
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You're quite right that the analogy isn't perfect. The point I was trying to make, though, is precisely that PHP development can proceed without any recourse whatsoever to a framework. Jumping straight into web dev without an accompanying f
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PHP: the quiet powerhouse
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A good example for you might be the "jQuery: Novice to Ninja" book. It cuts out a lot of the BS that makes other books annoying and cuts straight to the chase of DOING. Think of a group of sample projects, or maybe even think of a single pr
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I agree, although I would argue for making JavaScript your primary language for web development, especially in light of (a) the possibility that has emerged in the past few years of running JavaScript on the front and back end (I'm referrin
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Well, Backbone as it stands doesn't really allow you to have these kinds of app-in-itself unities capable of communicating with one another. Clearly, this isn't for everyone and for all purposes. Backbone is "fine as it is" for plenty of th
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You’re a polyglot. Shouldn’t your PaaS be polyglot too?
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Putting some MVC meat into your app: Backbone.js
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Time for Cron in PHP Fog
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Venturing beyond Rails: Sinatra
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