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by lsiebert 6y ago
Well, probably because the rhetoric was presumed entirely rhetorical, and then Trump supporters including white supremacists invaded the Capital building talking about hunting down members of congress to ensure Trump's victory and 5 pe
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by lsiebert 6y ago
I am not a lawyer, this is not legal advice, but the App store may constitute an essential facility for a desktop program developed specifically for Apple Computers. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Essential_facilities_do
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by lsiebert 6y ago
I think everyone working in tech knows that sometimes simplistic solutions handle the vast majority of cases. The people who are muscular athletes are probably not worried about their BMI, but if they are, they can discuss with their docto
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by lsiebert 6y ago
Actually I've seen stories about people being convinced by the nurses taking care of them. There's an example here if you scroll down. https://www.thecut.com/2020/11/nurses-are-dealing-with-patie... But
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by lsiebert 6y ago
You mean their documentation of the horrors of an absolutely real pandemic which many Americans have been falsely led to believe is a fraud? Even people literally dying of it don't believe in it. https://www.washingtonpost.c
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by lsiebert 6y ago
For people discussing the difference between forced labor and slavery, this document from the UN's office of the high commisioner on human rights, tracing the history of such terms in international law, may be helpful. https:/&#x
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by lsiebert 6y ago
Yuck. Why is this on HN? "German de-Nazification would be called an ideological tyranny if it were ever objectively described, and it brainwashed a generation of Germans."
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by lsiebert 6y ago
I'm not sure about you specifically, but these are financially motivated crimes, and generally reducing poverty dramatically reduces crime.
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by lsiebert 6y ago
This story is about a systemic failure of policing leading to people being regularly victimized, which seems pretty political to me.
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by lsiebert 6y ago
Hi Colin, Given that you run your own spider, presumably you provided it one or more urls to get started spidering. I'm curious what those were.
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by lsiebert 6y ago
We talk about the tech community right? What do you do when there's a problem in your community you want to address... not talk about it?
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by lsiebert 6y ago
https://gizmodo.com/more-than-1-500-google-employees-sign-pe... I mean google employees including most of her coworkers seem to think it's problematic.
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by lsiebert 6y ago
Basically google (edit: I should say executives at Google, 1500 other googlers have signed a petition supporting her) wanted her to retract her (and 7 co-authors) ethics paper, wouldn't give her clear reasons or work with her on it, an
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by lsiebert 6y ago
People who point out problems are called toxic, not because they are in anyway injuring others, but because attacking them is easier than addressing their criticism.
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by lsiebert 6y ago
Do you not care about Google censoring and firing one of the people who are supposed to keep it ethical?
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by lsiebert 6y ago
Lecun's last post on twitter was telling people not to attack her, so I'm not sure that characterization holds.
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by lsiebert 6y ago
If you, a large corproation working in AI, hire a prominent and vocal AI ethicist, any modicum of awareness should tell you that they may actually have a sense of ethics.
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by lsiebert 6y ago
I think if she is to be judged on whether she was being toxic to Lecun or not, Lecun's opinion is relevant. Why do you feel it's not? And if his opinion isn't relevant, why should we care about yours? I also find your questi
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by lsiebert 6y ago
They were continuing to work on the paper for publication, which, if you've never written an academic paper, is a lengthy process. There's a heck of a difference between not being done and not wanting a rough draft circulating vs
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by lsiebert 6y ago
You mean when Lecun left Twitter explicitly saying people should stop critiquing Gebru? https://twitter.com/ylecun/status/1277372578231996424 saying: "Following my posts of the last week, I'd like to ask
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by lsiebert 6y ago
I'm saying that saying her paper was "light in technical substance" when we haven't read it is problematic. Any article such as this is going to be light on technical substance in comparison to the paper itself.
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by lsiebert 6y ago
She was the technical co-lead of Google's Ethical AI team, publishing papers like this was exactly what she was hired to do. Here's Google's Principles for Artificial Intelligence https://ai.google/principles&
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by lsiebert 6y ago
If her behavior is "toxic", who has it harmed?
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Ultimately this reads as straight censorship by Google. Or if not by Google, by Google employees, with the tacit approval of their higher ups. They didn't like the viewpoint she expressed, didn't like the criticisms she raised, so
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by lsiebert 6y ago
I think the real story is that Google wanted to muzzle a researcher.
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by lsiebert 6y ago
We haven't read her paper, just an article about it. We can't read it, because google won't let us. That you don't see that as a problem is a little concerning.
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by lsiebert 6y ago
This is a co-written paper. It's interesting you focus on her, instead of suggesting that all of the 8 authors are social engineers, pissed etc.
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They probably don't want stablecoin to be like check cashing or payday loans
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by lsiebert 6y ago
Yes, thank you for getting it.
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by lsiebert 6y ago
Why would a group of employees want to have any collective say in what their company does or how it treats them?

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