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by jwarden 4y ago
Further in community like HN, it’s not just about collaborative filtering to find things that you as an individual will like. It is about focusing the collective attention of the community on a small set of topics to drive rich discussion
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I would suggest that one of the reasons you find the submissions on the New page valuable is that submitters are actively seeking out stories they think the HN community would upvote. So the content of the New page indirectly reflects popul
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I think there may well be some sort of “holding pen” system. But we don’t have the info. We only know what the “raw” ranking formula is. But the actual rankings differ significantly from what the raw ranking formula says. You can actually s
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The problem certainly isn’t that HN content and conversation isn’t good. But that doesn’t mean it couldn’t be better. The core problem we are teying to solve is that the community sometimes misses out on the opportunity to discuss content t
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I would say the ranking algorithm has many purposes. Driving quality engagement and discussion, as you suggest, is probably the most important. But I think simply being “interesting enough” to many users is not the goal. I think the goal is
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If it's on rank 1 of the front page, then the vast majority of votes come from the front page. But if it's at rank 90 of the front page, and rank 1 of the new or the best page, then in those cases only a minority of upvotes may be
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Good point, I hadn't thought that some people are using the upvote button effectively as a bookmark button. Interesting idea the unified upvotes+bookmarked view. And your comment raises the question, what does an upvote mean? Why do pe
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Interesting idea. Yes that's probably true. One issue is that a story could appear on multiple pages (top, new, show, etc.), and we don't know where the upvote came from. But I think we could deal with that issue and we might be a
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One thing that prevents us from actually implementing the algorithm is that there is some "secret sauce" to HN rankings that is not publicly available. There are flags, vote ring detectors, domain penalties, the second chance queu
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Yes we understand taking issue with the word fair . But we should say we mean fair in a very specific way. We would say our algorithm is more fair in the sense that it, in some ways, it more fairly reflects the intent of the HN communit
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Interesting question. One difference is that upvoteRate formula adjusts for where the submission appears on the page (the rank). It also adjusts for how many site-wide upvotes occurred during that time period. You are right, since we do
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Show HN: Towards a fairer ranking algorithm for Hacker News(github.com)
1 points by jwarden 4y ago|1 comments
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Hello HN! TLDR; - We propose a new metric called upvoteRate that could be used to improve the Hacker News ranking score. - Quality News is a Hacker News client that shows the upvoteRate for each story, along with additional charts and stats
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Thank you! And yes that's a pretty good summary.
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Show HN: Quality News – Towards a fairer ranking algorithm for Hacker News(news.social-protocols.org)
43 points by jwarden 4y ago|5 comments
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by jwarden 4y ago
Links: Site: https://news.social-protocols.org/ Readme: https://github.com/social-protocols/news#readme Previous Blog Post: https://felx.me/2021/08/29/improving-the-hacke
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Show HN: UpvoteRate – Towards a fairer ranking formula for Hacker News
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I smell Petrichor when my whole-house humidifier starts running after having been off for a long time.
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Game theory doesn't have to operate at the level of individuals making conscious decisions. Consider the concept of the Evolutionary Stable Strategy: https://cs.mcgill.ca/~rwest/wikispeedia/wpcd/wp/e
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I get a ton of value just from having vim key bindings on the commandline and in REPLs (anything with readline support). Being able to press the up arrow and then quickly edit a typo at the beginning of my previous command without using the
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Thanks, this was new information for me. I always noticed how moonlight on snow looks blueish. But per the Wikipedia article on moonlight[1], this is apparently an illusion: The color of moonlight, particularly around full moon, appears b
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It’s a great idea. And it doesn’t have to be a comment. It just needs to be a reason . It could be a tag, possibly corresponding to a specific guideline on the site. #flamebate, #tangent, etc.
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The definition of censorship certainly doesn't entail a small group of powerful and unaccountable people. Below are a couple of definitions I have found online. I think people may be more outraged by censorship if it is done by a small
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One descriptive theory of morality is Moral Foundations Theory[0]. Jonathan Haidt introduces it in his popular book The Righteous Mind[1]. My current thinking is that, since normative principles (what ought to be) cannot be demonstrated to
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I am reading Rawls’ followup book, “Justice as Fairness”, which he describes as a kind of restatement or correction to Theory of Justice. I am not sure if it would have been better to read the original first. The idea of the Veil of Ignoran
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Part of embracing diversity is accepting that it is hard, sometimes impossible, for other people to pronounce names that are uncommon in their native tongue When I lived in China, nobody could pronounce my name anywhere close to correctly a
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Fairly attributing blame for the non-attribution of credit is not going to be easy.
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I would design the algorithms so that they tended to amplify accurate information and civil discussion. Here are some essays I have written on the subject: https://deliberati.io/give-truth-the-advantage/ https:/&
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Give Truth the Advantage(deliberati.io)
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No open online community with such a radical content moderation policy can survive. It is too easy for a small number of people to flood a community with spam and abuse. It has happened countless times. And there is a lot of good writing o

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