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The thing is that while Scala's main focus is not on being "a slightly nicer Java", it does that job fairly well. There just doesn't seem to be a good point in using Kotlin, as you can tell from how fast the Kotlin propo
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Absolutely. I think persons in charge will think at least twice before raiding an event organized by the people writing opinions for the Federal Court of Justice.
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Given the amount of weed consumed, I think the copyright infringements would be the smallest of their issues. :-)
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While I agree with many points in the video, it feels kind of disheartening to me how many people just wave it around as if it could be used as an attack against the language and its community. (A general observation, what you say here is t
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> It strikes me that bringing functional programming to the JVM can / has been done simpler: Clojure being the obvious one, but F# on the CLR is another good template. Scala's FP is more expressive than all of them, by a large
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[...] it was so mustache-twirlingly out of touch that it could have been from the Hacker News. FTFY :-P
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Not sure you understood that. I've been doing this for a while, after being sick of all those poor quality JavaScript frameworks and it works perfectly fine. Usually the "main" JavaScript framework code is bloated, but kind o
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> be concise but still expressive, toolable, as fast as Java, easy ramp-up time, and very important, interoperable with all the existing code base we had ... and when you went to the Scala developers, they said "no, we aren't i
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I think you are missing the motivation behind some of these things: Oracle would probably never have started to experiment with value types and specialized generics, if Scala didn't take the plunge and implemented, tested and shipped i
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I think you see for yourself where your example falls apart.
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That sounds like a horrible idea in both cases ...
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Yeah, I'm really getting tired of these imbeclies. It's really convenient how they switch to _SECONDS_ on the x-axis. Sorry, if they need an y-axis in seconds, GC is far from solved.
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Some people like a browser to be a browser, not something which grows into a poorly engineered, sand-boxed, slow operating system inside of another operating system. Sorry, I just don't trust JavaScript developers that much.
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> Stop using internal API's So what's the alternative? It's not like people are using sun.misc.Unsafe for the fun of it.
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Java 8 support will run out in a while. I'm pretty sure it won't "be around for long enough" except if you decide to stay on unmaintained versions full of unfixed security issues.
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Why should third-party libraries pay for Oracle's technical debt?
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Looks like they are trying to exhaust all possible bad ideas, before picking the solution that works. I expect that they don't even know what works yet, because NIH and "it didn't exist in the 1970ies".
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> OpenGL is an open standard, and has an open-source implementation by the name of [Mesa]( http://www.mesa3d.org/ ). I think that's kind of misleading. Mesa lags years behind any current OpenGL standard.
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No. Scala neither needs to compile dependencies, nor does it need to recompile everything on a change. The first compile might take a bit, but after that all changes are usually incrementally compiled in less than a second.
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That gave me a good chuckle.
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> I don't think Go is really about catering to hordes of cheap junior devs Rob Pike disagrees with you.
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It's more functional than most languages called "functional".
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> Then you have the compile speed issues, the problematic tool chain [...] Did you ever use Haskell? Those issues are far worse in Haskell than in Scala. You just hear more people complaining about Scala, because it is used, while Haskel
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Exactly. It's not like we don't know plenty of mistakes yet, which will bite them a few years down the road.
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> The way to get Apple's attention is for Google or Firefox > to develop a superior browser and browsing experience on > Android, that users take notice is missing from iOS and is > regarded as a USP for Android. I think
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So there will be basically no change to the status quo? Looks like Kotlin will join Ceylon in terms of promising things and then failing to ship them. Post-1.0 Ceylon is still breaking compatibility.
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> This sentiment is incredibly anti-intellectual. Yeah, he keeps trolling various discussions with his "Java is the best thing ever" chants.
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+1. If I wanted a worse-is-better language to work with worse-is-better developers, I have plenty of languages to choose from. Personally, I prefer using a good language. Judging from all the butt-hurt responses some people here think that
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I guess I must have been dreaming when seperate compilation fell apart in Koltin recently due to backward-incompatible changes.
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Seriously? The same people who couldn't maintain their fork of Unity are now writing their own home-grown runtime, complete with their own garbage collector. I don't see a chance of this working out "well" for any sane o
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