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justintocci
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We are going to do a video demo of a complete app on Monday. Should be posted in the afternoon. Thank you for your feedback.
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Fixed!
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I don't understand. What we've done here is replace the web app architecture with a desktop app architecture. Desktop apps don't have customization or expansion problems so I wouldn't expect any here. Could you give me a
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Could you be more specific? We've got customers working with apps every day and they are happy. If they weren't happy we wouldn't have had time to release it as open source...
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I have finished the error message and pushed to Github. Thank you for your input. I will look at the link you have referenced soon. --nunzio
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Let me give you an example. MS Access and a database. Sure I could use the database as a dumb store and write reams of VBA, but that's not how I do it. I write functions in plpgsql and have minimal code in VBA. In my practice VBA and
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11y ago
Check out the live demo. The docs are very extensive, but they work best inside the IDE.
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Live demo has been posted! Go to the envelope.xyz website or click here: http://demo.envelope.xyz/ I apologize for the certificate errors. If you want the cert its here: https://demo.envelope.xyz/certificate
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Special thanks to Domingo Alvarez Duarte 'mingodad' for submitting the first community pull request. Merged in three minutes!
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> Since the application layer in a typical n-tier architecture is replaced with a generic, application-neutral layer, the back-end business logic is, of necessity, all moved into the database Yes! Just like a typical desktop app! What we
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I just made it so that it uses the first 4 bytes it gets from /dev/random, if it can't open /dev/random, it falls back to what we had before. --nunzio
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Understood. Working on it now.
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Funny!
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We wanted to avoid anything controversial. Do we need to make this configurable to make everyone happy? https://www.schneier.com/blog/archives/2013/10/insecurities_...
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We moved to: time(NULL) * getpid() * clock() Thanks!
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People are trying to download from the old link. Please refresh the install page to get the latest link.
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You write HTML documents to make the apps. Those are then stored to the file system like normal. When you load the app in the browser, the components (just custom HTML tags) connect through Envelope to your database. Also, it's not for
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> How is using Postgres DB users as website users working for you? Fricken awesome. Very easy to sleep at night. We can do a complete security audit in fifteen minutes. > Is having thousands or millions of users practical, or is this
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I admit, I don't use CF. I looked at the Wikipedia entry for it and I see its heavy on server side programming. Envelope replaces server side programming. CF uses server side programming to make components whereas Envelope uses Javascr
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We are working on it. We didn't anticipate the demand. Give us an hour or so.
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That license is on X-tags. We use X-tags as a shim to get Web Components to work on many browsers. We use no code from the Polymer project. At the time we were evaluating we decided to go straight web components with X-Tags as a shim. I hav
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>...production ready and available today... Envelope has been in production for six years. Apps in production: Foreign stocking location (barcode inventory app), Jmine (Export of a Goldmine database published to the web), all our interna
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> When does 'easy' stop and the real work begin? Envelope includes the Greyspots framework which is a collection of web components that talk to PostgreSQL through the Envelope server. These web components give you all the stand
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Fixed! Thank you for the feedback! I apologize for the look, none of us here are designers but we try hard. People that aren't seeing the changes need to hit refresh on their browser. I apologize for the confusion.
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fixed! Thank you!
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We are happy to announce the release of Envelope v1.0.0 today. Envelope is a complete platform that makes building web apps on top of PostgreSQL easy. Envelope is free, open source, offered under a PostgreSQL style license, compatible with
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Envelope – Postgres database to web app with just HTML and SQL
(envelope.xyz)
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i think of it as a dating site.
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i'm not a big alcohol person and had been paleo for many years. one day i get a gift from a friend, some special coffee. i don't drink coffe but i gave it a try. wow! it was great, i had a cup a day for a few days and then bam! i
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public website or more like an internal application? internal apps are an easy yes. a public website requires a few bits to make sure everything is secure but it can be done safely. be thorough and it'll be safe.
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