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jshevek
10y ago
> I hope I haven't implied that they're exactly the same thing as logic When you said: > If you fail to rein in your anger with the idea of empathy or patience, how about using logic? First, (and possibly not relevant to you
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10y ago
> People like Marco are ruinous to society Yes, and ignoring people like Marcos shows integrity on Altman's part. We should never let despicable people like Marcos hold us hostage.
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jshevek
10y ago
My assessment is based on (a) personal conversations with scores of strongly left-leaning people, as well as (b) many hundreds left-leaning blog posts, videos, left-leaning podcasts, and the like. Some of this evidence pre-dates Trump'
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jshevek
10y ago
Thank you for posting this. I'm also a liberal, but when such politically divergent people as Ralph Nader and Rush Limbaugh are (shockingly) speaking out against the same kinds of social disease, it's time to take notice. Someth
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jshevek
10y ago
Yes. This is correct. Please look carefully at where and from whom you see that attitude - there is an obvious pattern.
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10y ago
> This is not about persecuting people who vote for Trump. No, if you look at the arguments being made and the people making the arguments, it's clear that "this" in the larger sense is exactly about ostracising people who
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jshevek
10y ago
We have seen many examples in the last decade of "enemies of the left" being fired and no platformed for their views. This campaign targeting Thiel appears to be a product of the same value system, so it is understandable that so
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jshevek
10y ago
I agree with your first two sentences, but I think we'll figure this out within another generation.
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jshevek
10y ago
I agree emphatically that this is on both sides. Those of us who have watched with relief and hope the decline of influence of irrational, moralizing, censoring fundamentalist Christians[1] (on the right) are somewhat shocked and disappoin
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jshevek
10y ago
You make excellent points. Marco is not alone in this. There is a subculture in the US that is so full of their own self righteousness, they are unable to take a fair look at themselves. No matter where we sit on the political spectrum, w
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jshevek
10y ago
Excellent points. I have no love for someone as ignorant as Donald Trump, but the values demonstrated by some of the most committed Trump haters seems the most likely to support a dictatorship in the years to come.
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10y ago
In a sea of partisan squabble, you've said something truly worthy of thought. This has analogs in everything from organized crime to the interactions of genes.
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10y ago
This is true. The debate about Trump is made more complicated by the racism and sexism demonstrated by (those that happen to also be among) the most ardent Trump haters.
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jshevek
10y ago
I believe you've misused the word fallacy. Taking a stand against bigotry absolutely can make you a bigot. Different kinds of bigots engage in mutual opposition on a regular basis.
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jshevek
10y ago
> I never meant to accuse you of ad hominem against ThomPete. Sorry if I caused confusion there. Your diplomacy is admirable, but I think there is a deeper issue here. I found your original text to be clear.
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jshevek
10y ago
That's an excellent point. Altman is demonstrating intelligence and maturity.
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10y ago
This is exactly why the anti-Trump hyperbole is dangerous.
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jshevek
10y ago
You've made incorrect assumptions about what I have or have not forgotten. I don't see why you think that making trivial observations about the nature of emotion moves the conversation forward. You seem to conflate the idea of log
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10y ago
I agree emphatically. In many cases, other people's inner states inevitably effect us, no matter whether they strive for politeness.
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10y ago
> An article telling people to be nice for the sake of being nice would be correct, but not change a single person. I have been influenced by blogs which make appeals to ethical conduct (for the sake of ethical conduct) as a desirable en
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10y ago
> If assholes faked politeness, the world would be a better place Not when compared to developing sincere respect or humility. Also you seem to underestimate the damage that is done by such people who become increasingly skilled at hidin
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jshevek
10y ago
I agree. The advice in this blog post seems to only encourage people to be more calculating and fake, rather than patient or empathetic.
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10y ago
I recently discussed this topic with some U.S. citizens in their sixties. It is their impression, and mine as well, that this is the worst election in our lifetimes in that way. Of course there are always some people that vote according t
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10y ago
As I expected.
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10y ago
> I think that accusing the left as being monolithic and acting unanimously adds to this divide. Yes. Can you explain how this seemingly apropos of nothing observation contributes to discussion?
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10y ago
Thank you for posting this. To my view, partisans on both sides are roughly comparable. Some of their manipulative tactics differ in the specifics, but they are both dishonest and both harmful to society.
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10y ago
It's not too late to vote for Jill Stein. I'm not sure any of the four most prominent candidates are qualified for the position, but at least one could make a vote against war.
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10y ago
Sadly, racists always find ways to rationalize their racism.
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10y ago
> If these companies are so clueless about technology that they think SOPA is a good idea, how could they be good investors? Trump does not threaten technological innovation the way that SOPA did. >I think it's fair to ask whethe
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10y ago
We are witnessing the emergence of a new degree dysfunction on the left. If it continues to gain traction, it may eclipse the dysfunction that we witnessed on the right in previous decades.
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