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jnoller
17y ago
Did you read the comment above this? Sed is the initial hack to fix it, but it's still a hack; not a fix. Eventually I punted on it for the Linux dist, but I'm probably going to be stuck with the sed fix for OS/X. As for pythonpath - that h
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jnoller
17y ago
I did exactly that at first; the problem is that it shouldn't need to be done, and additionally, other things (such as .pth files) can also include hardcoded paths.
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jnoller
17y ago
Not exactly; python already has a PYTHONPATH which acts (sort of) like java's classpath.
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jnoller
17y ago
No it's not. You missed the fact that python packages that include stuff like scripts hardcode the full, explicit prefix in the #! lines. This means you can compile with --prefix all you want, but if you move it, everything breaks in unexpe
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jnoller
17y ago
No; you see I don't care what license he uses. No one has been attacking him, and ultimately, what license he chooses is the license he chooses. Done. Disagreement with a position is not bitching, nor is it attacking.
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jnoller
17y ago
Thanks for taking my quote/tweet/whatever out of context, Zed. I was replying to your comment "I find it funny that people cry it's not fair I use the GPL and use their BSD software, but then _don't_ cry when a company uses their gear." Spe
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jnoller
17y ago
Tismer is working on a new version of psyco; so I'll be interested to see how that comes out. That being said, psyco is only good for certain workloads (math heavy, for example). Unladen's goals are more "real workload" oriented, so don't e
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jnoller
17y ago
I'm very happy the unladen-swallow team is making progress like this. Collin and Jeffery have done a fantastic job.
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17y ago
Nice troll; too bad that's all it is. I mean, damn all those BSD/MIT/Apache 2.0/etc licensed products, which comprise the bulk of the Python software and library ecosystem.
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jnoller
17y ago
"...and hope that you will not be the target of legal action." I think that's a hope that I, jacob and many others are not willing to sign up to.
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17y ago
50% faster... on selected benchmarks. Run pypy through the unladen-swallow performance benchmarks (very real-world tests) and get some more accurate numbers.
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17y ago
I posted this earlier: http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=654560
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17y ago
Also on blip.tv: http://blip.tv/file/2232410
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jnoller
17y ago
Baloney. Many of us who do want better threading in python still prefer message passing and processes. That's nothing new. Different tools work well for different jobs.
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17y ago
And for further information: http://jessenoller.com/2009/02/01/python-threads-and-the-glo... Ultimately, while the implementation of the GIL is inefficient, and does harm you in the case of processor-bound computation, they're still usefu
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Inside the Python GIL
(dabeaz.com)
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17y ago
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17y ago
Before you don your tinfoil hat, you could download the source code right here: http://code.google.com/p/qsb-mac/source/browse/
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17y ago
Pretty much devoid of anything useful. Factually incorrect to boot.
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17y ago
He has no patches. I see nothing on python-dev, bugs.python.org, etc. All I see is someone saying "I have code which is the balls, awesome". That's it.
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The staleness of the standard library and adding new things
(sayspy.blogspot.com)
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17y ago
Thank you.
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17y ago
I'm sorry; No. I'm not demanding he fix it; I'm asking he do something more constructive than nothing. Python isn't "my" software - it's "our" software. Zed's smart enough to contribute and help fix things - I hold him to a higher standard
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17y ago
I concur; which is why I mentioned a PEP to solidify some of the idiosyncrasies "out" - akin to PEP8, propose an API style guide.
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17y ago
Patches, PEPs and bug reports welcome. If you see a problem, it's polite to at least assist in fixing it.
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17y ago
It's nothing. But I wholly agree that many of the comments here and elsewhere are very much in the vein of "man wouldn't it be great if python was OCaml?!!", which is about as useful a comment as a hole in my head.
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17y ago
I don't think it misses anything. My post is mainly around things I want to make better, to make python better. I am definitely a fan of using the right tool for the right job: that means using the language which fits the domain. This is wh
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17y ago
Mutable arguments are considered harmful; and will probably cause cancer, plague, locusts and other end-of-the-world problems.
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17y ago
Heh. No reason to flame me ;)
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17y ago
I'll adjust the text to clarify my point
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17y ago
asserts are stripped out when python is run in optimized mode. Not to mention sprinkling them around your code is infuriating for people dealing with your code :) I'd also point you to the links to guido's writeup I put in the post, I agree
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