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igouy
3y ago
vs CPython https://benchmarksgame-team.pages.debian.net/benchmarksgame/... vs Node https://benchmarksgame-team.pages.debian.net/benchmarksgame/...
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So if one was "Prototyping a Real-Time Embedded System in Smalltalk" one might 'improve frequently invoked methods by recoding, possibly as “primitive” functions in a lower level language such as C or assembler'. https:
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> and make use of those cores in your CPU For example, see the difference between elapsed time and cpu time measurements here: https://benchmarksgame-team.pages.debian.net/benchmarksgame/...
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In context, something like: Julia won't take over because someone will make a sufficiently performant JIT for Python ? (Name dropping ancient language implementations was confusing to me, and I'm ancient.)
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> So I am lost Me too. Do you wish to suggest that Smalltalk implementations had "C performance" ? Do you wish to suggest that some Smalltalk programs should still be a little faster than corresponding Ruby +YJIT programs ? (Bu
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> It would be nice if someone went through and rewrote these using current idiomatic Swift It's always nice when someone else does what we can see is required, but mostly we have to be the ones to do that work.
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> … not denigrating the benchmark game … Agreed. My response was to your comments about the "Energy Efficiency across Programming Languages" conference paper. You found the JS/TS "very confusing": I suggested a s
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Alternatively https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=38463579
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> conflates languages and their implementations A more charitable reading might accept that language names may be used as shorthand for particular language implementations. In this case: https://sites.google.com/view/
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A selective quotation which misses the point. "Actually I made up the term "object-oriented", and I can tell you I did not have C++ in mind. The important thing here is that I have many of the same feelings about Smalltalk.&q
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https://learn.microsoft.com/en-us/dotnet/fsharp/what-is-fsha...
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Previously https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=29611365
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fwiw https://benchmarksgame-team.pages.debian.net/benchmarksgame/...
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[1] That isn't the benchmarks game. This is the benchmarks game: https://benchmarksgame-team.pages.debian.net/benchmarksgame/...
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> This is based on the now defunct Programming Language Shootout, aka The Benchmark Games. That seems to be a defunct mirror someone made once upon a time. https://www.google.com/search?q=benchmarks+game Here are the Rac
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And works on less than super computers. https://benchmarksgame-team.pages.debian.net/benchmarksgame/...
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Please provide some sources saying something about Smalltalk's Proven Productivity .
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Both links reference the same source material — "Table 16: Side-by-Side Comparison of function points and lines of code metrics" Seems like a comparison of Smalltalk using an IDE and Java using Notepad? Not really credible is it.
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Ruby without Rails — https://benchmarksgame-team.pages.debian.net/benchmarksgame/...
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> not the language that's fast, it's its implementation And specific language implementations are identified: C gcc 12.2.0-3ubuntu1 C clang Ubuntu clang version 15.0.2-1 > how it's used And specific source
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> How do I compare let's say C vs. Dart? https://benchmarksgame-team.pages.debian.net/benchmarksgame/... > The programs seem the same. Which programs seem the same? > Also the results seem to be sorted ra
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Oberon :-)
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Some pictures: https://benchmarksgame-team.pages.debian.net/benchmarksgame/...
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> done by people who know exactly what they are doing Do you think we should only compare JavaScript written by newbies?
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> > Around the speed of Java and Go in some cases … > Claiming JS has the same performance as … "in some cases"
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> I want to know that some folder full of source code is the program, and some other folder is the data … That would be completely ordinary with Smalltalk. "Within each project, a set of changes you make to class descriptions is mai
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Is it really the "film camera" or might the reaction to a DSLR be similar? (Carrying anything more than a smart phone.)
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> you take fewer photos but more of them are usable I need to take more photos of the same scene but from different angles — higher, lower, closer, … work the scene. How will limited film shots help (force) me to do that? > look a
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That was evident from your comment and the reason I didn't pose the question to you. You are hardly "giving yourself over to your materials, framing, and exposure, and being delighted by the results even if they aren’t exactly wha
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> you can’t imagine what it takes to hike Yosemite with a LF camera! No fool, AA built a platform onto the roof of his car, to support camera, tripod, and himself. Plenty of famous AA pictures were made from roadside viewpoints in nation
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