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You could do even better than this if you wanted. Since there are only between 100-200 dom attributes, you can pack that into the opcode itself. Assuming 6 bits for the opcode (64 ops) and 8 bits for the dom attribute (256 attrs), you still
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In this particular case, I believe there are 3 reasons: 1) Size - turning each op into a couple of bytes means that the size of your template is significantly smaller. If each instruction is 4 bytes, I could get ~20 instructions in the sp
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Nope, though we all play in a similar space and I know several of the people in Flex - they're fantastic folks doing really interesting work. :)
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I'll be excited to learn more about your latest work :)
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I probably did a poor job explaining, but that's what the example is: an app that a food truck owner could use to run their food truck. :) > There must be a better range of use cases. There are lots of businesses I'm sure we co
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[Eve member] Out of curiosity, what would you classify as a practical application? We're looking for some interesting examples to build to help show Eve to folks. EDIT: For instance, one of the examples we're throwing together now
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It is, but it's a multi-step process. :) Checkout the three milestones at the bottom of the post: http://programming.witheve.com/#justataste
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This milestone is very much about making a programming environment, so you're right, that's still code. Though to address this strawman, compare that to what you would write in Java or even Python. Some of the best comments we
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Trying to do literate programming in traditional languages is pretty crappy [1]. Some heroic effort ended up having to go into this release as well so things aren't as commented as we wanted, but that will improve. There are a few file
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There's still code here, the text is just for people, so I wonder if this is maybe a misunderstanding. The language presented is a variant of datalog and is as formal as any other language. If you're curious in the semantics, they
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Should be fixed, try hard refreshing.
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I at least fixed the main webpage's issue with not-quite phone sized screens.
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Check out our followup on that : http://programming.witheve.com/deepdives/whateveis.html 1) Eve is amazing at graph algorithms, not so much at writing quicksort. At the same time, you don't need to write quicksort
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That's fair. We don't talk about it in here because there was already way too much to discuss, but we've done a few non-trivial things in Eve. All of the inspector interactions are actually written in Eve [1], as is the progr
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Hi All! Many of the folks here have been following us for a long time and we're really excited to finally pull everything together to show you all where our research has taken us. Eve is still very early [1], but it shows a lot of prom
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Eve: Programming designed for humans
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Reconfigurable Chaos-Based Microchips Offer Possible Solution to Moore’s Law
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Subform: A modern tool for digital product designers
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Out of curiosity, would you say the same thing about Clojure? It's also a home-grown language with its own non-standard terminology that is non-trivial to learn. Any fundamentally interesting change in programming will fit that descrip
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Seems similar in spirit :) They do a version of one the original demos: https://youtu.be/gtXpOD6jFls?t=49s
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The expectations for research and the expectations for engineering are different, and I suspect that's where a lot of this comes from. We've kept our burn insanely low (we still have a full startup's worth of runway left), be
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Sorry our research seems to have offended you. :( All our experiments have been moved to here: https://github.com/witheve/eve-experiments , which has the complete history of all the versions we've built. Our work i
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For a very brief period of time it was actually a standalone product that was being developed when I was at MSFT (2010ish), but eventually they just rolled it into VS.
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Lightswitch was an amazing example of poor positioning. If you looked at the marketing material for it, it was positioned as a tool to "build three tier web applications" followed by a bunch of words that I didn't really unde
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Despite much of the hate VB has gotten over the years, it served an insanely important purpose in the rise of internal business software. When I was at MSFT, me and the PM who owned the compilers for VB.NET and C# did a usergroup tour throu
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FWIW, You can get transaction-time and the associated wall clock time in datomic's query language as well, though admittedly I can imagine cleaner ways of doing it :) http://stackoverflow.com/questions/11025434
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That is indeed the premise of Datomic, so I'm not sure how that would be a differentiator in this case. Beyond that, it's hard to make any statements on the difference between the query languages without more examples.
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You have symmetric read and write rates? That's pretty odd. Also if you are writing at that rate, presumably those writes aren't persisted? EDIT: That's also a rate of 1.6us per query. I've never heard of a JSON/RES
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Depending on whose count you believe, there are 500-800M Excel users in the world. So it's more than order of magnitude (if not two) smaller than Excel.
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Ask HN: OSS projects/communities we should learn from for Eve
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