iLemming

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by iLemming 3mo ago
> never had to do this is not a defensible argument (regardless of what you use), see the relevant comment here¹ the bigger point is to get more precise and utilitarian control over text which I already discussed here in this thread², pi
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by iLemming 3mo ago
"I don't think I've ever had" stance, about any problem is not a good argument. At some point you'd face them and the mental models shaped by the tools you choose, often force you to deal with them in a way that oft
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Emacs is not an editor. It's a Lisp-driven text orchestrator with a built-in editor. You can type your text in whatever IDE and still control everything through Emacs.
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by iLemming 3mo ago
whoa, you can and absolutely should pipe things in and out of vim - it's natural. Emacs on this actually in disadvantage - it doesn't give you a built-in way for piping from and into buffers, but for that there is emacs piper scri
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by iLemming 3mo ago
I realized that I was typing the comment above in the middle of the night; finally, brain fatigue hit and I wrapped it too soon (thus some typos, sorry). That all was some "poetry." Now let me give you some concrete example cases
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> i don't wait on agents. ew! You're conflating "what I do" with "what my job is." A bunch of my friends and colleagues are literally getting paid and forced today to use agents. There's no break from i
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Most programmers come to appreciate a single fundamental truth about their field way too late into their careers. That the most basic foundational unit, the substrate they need to conquer is text. Everything stems from it. We have to deal w
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Emacs is just old. Its foundations (as in the general design) are truly fantastic. I still don't understand how the heck not a single other editor over so many years has even considered replicating ideas like indirect buffers. That alo
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by iLemming 3mo ago
I know that. Bumping GHC can still be relatively painful. Some language stacks are meaningfully easier on dependencies (not you Python), but can give you some other headaches (yes, you Python, damn you). Every PL in one way or another has s
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by iLemming 3mo ago
Oh wow, Haskell to Python. Interesting. They must have really wanted to preserve cascaded dependency headaches. ___ Please don't let your kernel panic, I'm being sarcastic. You never know the level of emotional attachment some HN
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by iLemming 3mo ago
Lol, how are you so smart and figured just everything out, so already? I'd be so bored to ever touch the keyboard again. Bless Turing I'm so stupid and simple and keep trying different things just to see how they differ.
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by iLemming 3mo ago
Emacs is not an editor. It's a Lisp-powered text orchestrator. It allows you to read, write, ocr, encrypt, decrypt, compile, debug, profile, browse, rss, email, calendar, track, journal, publish, tangle, run, query, spawn, multiplex,
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by iLemming 3mo ago
> they are doing various changes (and control) OMG. Don't let me even start here. Corporate IT cultures sometimes are so exhaustingly cretinous. With straight faces they'd perform "security theatre" that has nothing
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by iLemming 3mo ago
What a nightmare. The day anyone tells me not to use a specific editor regardless of what it is, I'd be opening their suggested one to type my resignation letter. And not because I love Emacs, Vim or whatever. I mean I'd understan
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by iLemming 3mo ago
I feel you're now contradicting your own statements now. You said: "[maybe] Lisp is just another Blub", but when pointed out that Lisp (and Lispers) is evolving, you're saying "pg clearly meant [the other Lisp]&quot
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by iLemming 3mo ago
> don’t change anything significant about the REPL user’s experience Perhaps you have never tried/heard of nextjournal/clerk, scicloj/clay, djblue/portal, vlaaad/reveal or just simply tried building a simple web
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by iLemming 3mo ago
Most Lispers I met do actively write in multiple languages all the time. They tend to borrow ideas from other PLs instead of loathing everything else that's not their favorite. They prefer Lispy syntax, but won't reject a language
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by iLemming 3mo ago
Oh wow, how quickly you changed from being "a good citizen containing an asshole" to being an asshole on your own. Good job, keep checking your mailbox, your medal should arrive shortly.
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by iLemming 3mo ago
Implementing C-like language in Lisp runtime - your interpreter reads C-like source, parses it to your own AST structs, and evaluates those. The host being homoiconic says nothing about the guest. You would have to write a guest REPL anywa
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by iLemming 3mo ago
Well, Haskell/OCaml campers would probably say "it ain't FP, like at all, rofl..." Truly, it's absolutely pointless mental exercise to cherry pick features of any given PL and compare with another one, with no regar
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by iLemming 3mo ago
> I just feel this (and its practical ramifications) are often overexaggerated. I dunno. Can't fully agree or disagree. Nominally, yes, you really don't need s-expressions and homoiconicity for creating reflective, self-hosting
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by iLemming 3mo ago
You're wrong on every count about my experience. And once again, please: I'm just saying that stages in Read-Eval-Print-Loop does have differences in homoiconic and non-homoiconic languages. THAT'S ALL I SAID. There's ze
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by iLemming 3mo ago
Da fuk you're talking about? Where the heck am I being an asshole? I have not used a foul language or insult in this thread once, even when someone accused me of being in a cult. Don't patronize me, even if you bought a moral auth
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by iLemming 3mo ago
I don't know who that is. I don't play stupid social games to win stupid social prizes. Why would I create a new account and yet keep replying with another one? I have single accounts pretty much everywhere, except Reddit - they s
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by iLemming 3mo ago
I would, but apparently I'm in a cult. Truth be told - I'm in multiple ones. Still trying to decide which one is my favorite.
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pg's notion was psychological, not about languages per se: a programmer sitting in language X can't perceive power above X, only below. It's about a fixed vantage point. Your "Lisp is just another Blub" would be tru
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by iLemming 3mo ago
> What's common in CL and Clojure? homoiconicity, macros, functional bias, REPL - to count just a few.
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by iLemming 3mo ago
I did not say anything about s-expressions. I said "homoiconicity". S-expressions are not an absolute requirement for homoiconic features. You keep poking me with your "knowledge" as if I'm trying to sell you snake
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by iLemming 3mo ago
You sweet, summer child, just so you know, I have existed for nearly half a century in this world where the larger part of it I have spent dealing in computing. I have seen and dealt with more programming languages (including Ruby) than you
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by iLemming 3mo ago
> programming has matured quite a bit Your wording sounds like it implies that Lisp "got stuck" somewhere in the past, no? Clojure, Clojurescript, Clojure-Dart, Fennel, Jade, Jank, Jolt, Coalton - these are relatively recent (a

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