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hollowturtle
4mo ago
> Users don’t care whether the code was written by AI or by hand, or which framework you used. They care that the product works. Software never worked even decently before AI let alone right now that we have AI. I'm a user too like
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hollowturtle
5mo ago
you're a fake troll
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5mo ago
> I was shocked how accurate it is, how many security issues it found in existing code, how it continually finds them as we commit, and how NO ONE is immune from making these mistakes. Dude is flexing that he's pushing unsecure code
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5mo ago
Interpreted that's right, in fact it's super slow and adding types adds up to parsing time. Javascript is jitted. Python types serves no purpose if not for documenting or letting the lsp doing some lightweight type checking. And b
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5mo ago
> internal tools which aren't production code that can benefit massively from throwaway "write-only code". First of all internal tools just prove my point. Second can't wait to hear a story of a health care production
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5mo ago
His comment doesnt even seem written by him, too busy doing nothing in a self driving car while codex work for him
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5mo ago
> They were wrong about self driving cars only in the bubble you live in > So I have to say unless there's something evidence based or substantial here it's likely given HN track record that most people here will end up bein
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5mo ago
Yes it is a maintenance deadend for LLMs it's notorious codebases start accumulating enormous amount of tech debt and that it gets almost impossible to unravel it even with the best agent
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5mo ago
I'm pretty you wouldn't want the same for code that runs healthcare, banks or transport. Only useless shitty web projects could embrace what's you're saying. And no there's no "Claude review the code and improv
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5mo ago
Because "it doesn't exist". It's just a layer on top of js, it doesn't have its own runtime, and btw what would supporting ts a the browser level mean? If you want to support a static typed language then you could j
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5mo ago
Isn't Asm.js better just for the fact that I can call web apis directly without shims? Or moving data in and out? I'd love to commit totally to webassembly but still seems very limited, am I wrong?
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5mo ago
Try it then, prove your point. Good luck :)
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hollowturtle
5mo ago
If what you say it's true, where are the great vibe coded games? Or great non vibe coded games, the killer apps that sold millions on steam?
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5mo ago
It really depends on the task, but, in my experience, small to medium and bigger codebases, the amount of steering to get quality code is not worth it. I see patterns and solutions emerging from hand coding, I'm not the other way aroun
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5mo ago
I'm curious. What makes you think that me sharing an example(which one of the many?) of what I actually tried would somehow add something to the conversation? What's the usefulness of just an anecdotal example? As I said we have a
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5mo ago
proof? except for marketing? There's a GDC anonymous poll that underlines very low percentages of usage
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5mo ago
> Half the projects I listed are system's programming related. No they're not and those who are, are in overwhelming control by the engineers that steer continuously the agents in the right direction. First of all this isn'
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5mo ago
It's been 4 years of using them for me, before writing a book I'd wait to have a decade of experience to share with others, otherwise it would have the same value as a book on a react tutorial
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5mo ago
You cited mostly web tech, which proves my point ;) Is antirez uses extensively agents to contribute to redis doesn't mean it's a becoming industry trend. I'd say quite the contrary, it isn't in the gaming industry for e
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5mo ago
c/c++, java, kotlin, go, some perl scripting, some javascript. Gaming industry
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5mo ago
>> But we should stop talking about 1s and 0s > I agree, but you contradicted yourself just one line above. >> > For generating production code even with a lot of steering and baby sitting? Absolutely not with this last se
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5mo ago
When I say > Absolutely not, not quite there not even close in my experience. I obviously mean in my experience, not the real truth. > That everyone else is being led by a "marketing hype That is obvious instead, and I later say
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5mo ago
> The code I get from LLM's is usually much better than what I get from my peers Then you should seriously question for who you're working for imo. > It also isn't lazy. It is indeed lazy in my experience, as in being o
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5mo ago
First of all it just underlines how shitty the web has become, second If that's your work I'd chase a career path where Claude can't one-shot this kind of dumb stuff
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5mo ago
I don't know how to define hard problems. All I know is that we have a gigantic amount of tech debt we accumulated on the web chasing the next web framework built on top of tons of abstractions with very disappointing native web apis t
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5mo ago
> What percentage of human engineers are creating novel solutions for hard problems, you think? IMO Every engineer should try spending his time in a company that tries to solve new problems. Otherwise we will be stuck, as we are now, wit
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5mo ago
Don't want to be rough, but I'd like to read experiences about novelty ideas that solve people real problems in the real world, your project it's just about selling new shovels. As I commented on another thread > If you&#x
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5mo ago
Please do not cite Dunning–Kruger effect at random. Who needs to generate a dumb demo of a 97% done crud app? We had code generators for those, everytime I read claims like that and I ask to explain further I then discover it's people
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5mo ago
Thanks for sharing your experience! I totally agree that if you "own your code", as in you're invested in it, coding it and documenting it, these tools can be really valuable for review, bug fixing and maintenance, it pushes
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5mo ago
> The coding agents got really good It's since november 2025, the so called "inflection point", that I'm still wondering for who coding agents become "really good". All I observe they got better at tool call
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