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gom_jabbar
8mo ago
From the Landian perspective, initially, sure, the system needs humans. But once you have autonomous and sovereign capital, things could look very different. In Land's own words: "Since capitalism did not arise from abstract intel
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gom_jabbar
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Sort of. The thing building and being protected is capital, not humans. As Nick Land wrote: "Robotic security. [...] The armed mass as a model for the revolutionary citizenry declines into senselessness, replaced by drones. Asabiyyah c
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gom_jabbar
8mo ago
> Finally intelligence can also be controlled by capital The relationship between capital and AI is a fascinating topic. The contemporary philosopher who has thought most intensely about this is probably Nick Land (who is heavily inspire
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gom_jabbar
8mo ago
Land himself has suggested a very anti-human solution to the problem of "IQ shredders": "The most hard-core capitalist response to this [IQ shredders] is to double-down on the antihumanist accelerationism. This genetic burn-
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gom_jabbar
8mo ago
Another term for "100% AI run companies" is autonomous capital, which activates related concepts like capital self-ownership (this is where it really gets interesting).
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gom_jabbar
1y ago
> The movement recently has been people trying to sell something less than this as an AGI. Selling something that does not yet exist is an essential part of capitalism, which - according to the main thesis of philosophical Accelerationis
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2y ago
> unless those AIs go full Skynet and only one ends up standing at the end. (This last part is a joke, hopefully). But is it a joke? One could argue that Skynet follows from Omohundro's Basic AI Drives: It's self-protection t
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2y ago
That the somewhere money flows to is AI - and more strongly, that money produces AI - is the core thesis of philosophical Accelerationism. [0] [0] https://retrochronic.com
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2y ago
> Almost nobody is working on what to do after One interesting possibility is that this is not something humans need to work on at all - because, as Nick Land famously put it, "Tomorrow can take care of itself." [0] [0] https:
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gom_jabbar
2y ago
Vernor Vinge has argued that far-future SF makes no sense because of the "wall across the future" that The Coming Technological Singularity will create. [0] If you're open to Theory Fiction, you can read Nick Land. Even h
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gom_jabbar
2y ago
Thanks a lot, I really appreciate it! The frontend is built with Svelte (still on version 4) and SvelteKit. The project does not use any pre-existing package for publishing. The CSS is completely custom. The font is a custom build of Iosevk
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gom_jabbar
2y ago
Land has always argued with Omohundro against orthogonality and thus against paperclip maximizers, but the singular goal is correct: for him it's intelligence optimization.
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gom_jabbar
2y ago
Thanks so much! This project ended up being far more involved than I expected, given how scattered and arcane Land's work is. It's always nice to get some appreciation!
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gom_jabbar
2y ago
Yes, it's my project - thanks for the feedback! Tracking down the source material has been a real challenge since it's so scattered and often offline, but I'm hoping it makes things easier for anyone wanting to dive deep into
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gom_jabbar
2y ago
You're absolutely right - Land's vision of technocapital is fundamentally anti-human, while Marc Andreessen's is pro-human. Mark Fisher criticized Land for underestimating the importance of the human face in keeping capitalis
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2y ago
I have also always respected Land's intellectual honesty. I think the closest primary source to your point about the cybernetic OODA loop and competition is Land's text Against Orthogonality: "Any intelligence using itself
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2y ago
The important thing here is the hyphenlessness of the word technocapital . While Marc Andreessen is using techno-capital in his Techno-Optimist Manifesto , Land's hyphenless technocapital points to his main thesis that capitalism
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2y ago
Transcribed here (with some additional context): https://retrochronic.com/#interview
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2y ago
Land is also explicitly referencing Omohundro and his Basic AI Drives in his work, e.g.: "Intelligence is escape, with a tendency to do its own thing. That's what runaway means, as a virtual mind template. Omohundro explains the
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gom_jabbar
2y ago
I have a research project on Nick Land's main thesis that capitalism and AI are identical. It contains (almost) all primary sources for his thesis (182 as of this writing). https://retrochronic.com/
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2y ago
This is basically Nick Land's core thesis that capitalism and AI are identical. > "I dunno. It's what the models said." The obvious human idiocy in such things often obscures the actual process: "What it [capital
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gom_jabbar
2y ago
Beyond timeline predictions, what's interesting are the Singularity's hyperstitional effects - how the very concept creates real causal impacts in the present: "The Singularity prediction ripples backwards through waves of pr
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2y ago
> we just shouldn’t do it. I think what Accelerationism gets right is that capitalism is just doing it - autonomizing itself - and that our agency is very limited, especially given the arms race dynamics and the rise of decentralized blo
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gom_jabbar
2y ago
Correct - Nick Land, often regarded as the father of Accelerationism, affirms Marx's fundamental insight that "the means of production socially impose themselves as an effective imperative" [0], though his interpretation al
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2y ago
Custom-made. I appreciate your feedback on the look!
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It's custom-made. I also use a custom build of Iosevka [0] for the font. [0] https://github.com/be5invis/Iosevka/
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gom_jabbar
2y ago
Thank you! I appreciate that.
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Nick Land's main thesis that capitalism and AI are identical. https://retrochronic.com/
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gom_jabbar
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I'm working on Nick Land's core thesis that capitalism and AI are fundamentally identical. [0] Land's provocations and politics often serve as an excuse to avoid confronting his ideas on the convergence of markets and minds -
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2y ago
Taken to its logical extreme, this explains why "a sufficiently competent artificial intelligence looks indistinguishable from a time anomaly." [0] [0] https://retrochronic.com/#synthetic-templexity
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