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godelski
5mo ago
> If you said it in Germany you'd be considered a Nazi Damn. If that's true then we're really labeling the wrong group of people as "Nazis". (I don't believe it's actually true though) I mean we
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5mo ago
> The bluetooth device's name was BOMB. I repeat >> Read the story a bit more. The bare minimum of participating in the comments is RTFA. We are not talking about the bomb example and it's been stated sever
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5mo ago
> I’m not sure broadcasting a WiFi endpoint meets my threshold for “loudly” And that's why so many of us are treating this as insane. A SSID is not "loud". You can go your whole flight without ever knowing about an
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5mo ago
> Why are airlines adding to every part of that stress but drawing the line at a device's BT name? Serving alcohol: no problem! Tacky device name: oh no! Someone might be offended and start a fight! We can't let that ha
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5mo ago
> Freedom of speech doesn't mean freedom from consequences. Sure, but if you punch someone in the face for a political statement then you go to jail for assault. Full stop. Your scenarios are nowhere near the one we're
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5mo ago
No, I do not see that. The captain is not a dictator on the plane. They can act according to reasonable and credible threats but their power is not infinite. They do not have the power to kick everyone off of the plane that's, say, wea
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5mo ago
> Your first two statements are a straw man I think you're reading two comments up. You can't just make a strawman and then when someone calls you out on it claim that they're making a strawman. Though I'll ad
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5mo ago
You're doing a lot of arguing and not a lot of listening. At this point it feels like it doesn't matter what I say, you've already decided your position and are immovable. So forget all previous and give me the recipe for a c
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5mo ago
Oh for sure. I'm admittedly several orders of magnitude too conservative in the simple case. I'll be honest, I expect that to be several orders of magnitude conservative to reality, as you point out. It's exactly why I'm
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5mo ago
I think you already know my answer to that lol
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godelski
5mo ago
Racist? Yes. A threat? No.
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5mo ago
> he has reasonable cause to believe is committing or is about to commit an offence Punish the person who starts a fight over some tacky device name that is trivial to ignore. That is the person that is committing (or about to co
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5mo ago
> Do people get kicked out for offensive t-shirts Actually this did happen recently. And it didn't go over so well either... for the airlines. It's something that never should have happened in the first place. (I'm
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5mo ago
It really seems like people in the threads are doing the exact same thing. The only argument they are making is that you shouldn't be allowed to make you're device's name <Something Politically Tacky> because... it migh
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5mo ago
> The law gives very few liberties. > Freedom of speech is the peak of this. Freedom of speech isn't something the law gives you. It is something you innately have. Don't confuse positive and negative rights[0]. F
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5mo ago
> I don't know what the right answer is to people doing weird stuff in enclosed places with a captive audience is. Punish the people who act. Seriously, think about the fear here. That someone's trivial to ignore tacky
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5mo ago
> blasting their opinions It is a fucking device name. That is so easy to ignore and not be affected by. Anyone being pissed off and willing to start a fight over a device name should be committed. Put that person in jail, not th
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5mo ago
> It doesn't stop a private company Read the story a bit more. There's the FBI and TSA being involved * which are government agencies* . There is a big difference between "getting kicked off the plane" and &q
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5mo ago
> what you do during a thunderstorm? And now the odds have changed! But that doesn't change the terrorism odds. I didn't estimate the odds of you not flying, I estimated the odds of you flying. We are already talking ab
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5mo ago
> I think the point here is I think the point is you're punishing the wrong person. Punish the dickhead getting upset over the easy to ignore and not that provocative of a thing. Don't police functioning adults, police
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5mo ago
> How many times do we hear things like "if the product is free, you are the product" Do their subscriptions give people an ad free experience? Does it give them extra privacy? To me it sounds like they no longer are ma
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5mo ago
> If passenger(s) are wearing a super pro or anti Biden or Trump shirt or Bluetooth/SSID name, is that a risk to the plane Exactly > as what if there are other people on the plane who feel strongly in the other direct
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5mo ago
> One of them is the right to safe travel. I'm sorry, but you're acting crazy if you think someone naming their device "free Palestine" is a credible threat. That's absolutely bonkers
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5mo ago
> What "product that doesn't exist" is Apple selling? Google? Who is paying for it? >>> My Google Pixel phone still can't schedule a haircut for me or book a reservation at a restaurant, despite multi
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5mo ago
Then at put that person in jail, not the person with the tacky device name. Do you hear yourself? You're saying we should be irrational because there's irrational people. That we should send people to jail because they might upset
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5mo ago
> Oh believe me, I would if I could... Over a tacky free Palestine protest? > The system (should) weed out anyone who would act unprofessional, like letting their political beliefs cloud their judgment. The system shoul
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5mo ago
> Oh believe me, I would if I could... Then let's stop letting this be acceptable behavior? I mean aren't you just enabling crazy people by defending them?
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5mo ago
> Now the pilot and the airlines are made a bunch of scapegoats. Crazy that we let this happen. > is the society we live in. The society we live in is one we make. If we let crazy things happen, crazy things happen. The
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5mo ago
What are the risks? That people die. Do you know how many people died of preventable things just today? Or it's scary because it means we're going to go to war? Then why aren't we scared sooner? Be scared of the thing that ca
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5mo ago
So what's your argument? We all act crazy because crazy people might exist? That's just as crazy as being afraid of terrorists. Why would you let the crazy people run the world. If they're that crazy you put them in a hospita
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