gnaritas

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by gnaritas 9y ago
I wasn't arguing it was an OO language, merely that it was OO code. OO used to be done in C in exactly the same basic way, passing the struct that is the object as the first arg to all the member functions; Python does this explicitly
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by gnaritas 9y ago
Well, now we have to get semantic; if by encapsulation you mean you keeping your data private and only exposing behavior publicly, then you're wrong. If by encapsulation you mean all behavior that uses an objects data is in the object
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by gnaritas 9y ago
haha, very true.
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by gnaritas 9y ago
Inheritance is not essential to OO; it is merely a method of sharing code.
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by gnaritas 9y ago
I'd argue that, it's not remotely the most important part nor is sub-typing. Encapsulation encourages better OO, but you can take a well encapsulated OO program, and remove all encapsulation by making all the data public, and that
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by gnaritas 9y ago
Sure, and functions are just sugar over goto's.
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by gnaritas 9y ago
Using a folder as a queue is pretty common in the Linux world, moving files between them as well to make a pipeline.
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by gnaritas 9y ago
That's just OO without encapsulation.
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by gnaritas 9y ago
Um, yea, and usage deviates precisely because people adopt different meanings to words over time until a new meaning becomes the norm; thus definitions are descriptive, not prescriptive, so don't tell me how to use words. And yes, I&#
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by gnaritas 9y ago
Normally when discussing mass, people are referring to resting mass, not relativistic mass.
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by gnaritas 9y ago
Photons lack mass right?
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by gnaritas 9y ago
> I'm not sure these are quite the same things. People who enjoy bland things always say this. :) Those words mean the same thing "to me", does mean it does to you, wasn't an insult, subtle just isn't a word I u
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by gnaritas 9y ago
Popular is literally a synonym for mainstream, they aren't being conflated. He went mainstream before Raw with Beverly Hills Cop, by the time Raw came out he was already a star. Doolittle was long after his prime, and long long after
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by gnaritas 9y ago
Subtle aka bland.
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by gnaritas 9y ago
I don't think he means they enable cheating, I think he means they frustrate developers who then try and find ways around the type system. Types pissing you off, just declare everything object and cast when you need to. You're ta
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by gnaritas 9y ago
Eddie was as mainstream as mainstream can get, how old are you?
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by gnaritas 9y ago
Well look at it; it says Java derives solely from C++, that's not remotely true. It's simplistic and misleading, here's some better ones... https://i.pinimg.com/564x/b9/45/71/b9457106d7a5d6
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by gnaritas 9y ago
You're welcome, now go look up what whatabout'ism is, because you don't seem to know.
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by gnaritas 9y ago
My link isn't dead ;)
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by gnaritas 9y ago
> You're misunderstanding Smalltalk, probably because of hype mongers like the author of this article. With that comment, you lost any good will I had for you. Despite that, I tried to explain to you anyway what we mean by file ba
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by gnaritas 9y ago
The projects I'm talking about are closed source business apps. My app is listed on the Seaside.st success stories page, but I'd rather not talk about it here.
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by gnaritas 9y ago
Correct, and not remotely the point being made. Just stop, seriously, you don't know what you're talking about.
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by gnaritas 9y ago
No I'm not misunderstanding Smalltalk, that Smalltalk now has a git plugin to be able to expose itself in that manner is exactly the kind of jumping through hoops I was referring to, it's taken many years for that to become stable
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by gnaritas 9y ago
I'm a Smalltalk'er, and that's completely disingenuous and frankly intellectually dishonest. What Smalltalk does is not remotely what you do in other languages and when we say file based we're referring to that differenc
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by gnaritas 9y ago
I just provided direct quotes from one of the creators of Java, sorry but you're simply wrong to argue you know better what inspired them than they did. Java is a decedent of Smalltalk via Objective C, that is simply a fact. It'
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by gnaritas 9y ago
Ditto, but that one is terribly wrong.
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by gnaritas 9y ago
Well, I'll be that guy, I don't care what inspired Bjarne, Simula created the idea of an object, but it wasn't until Smalltalk that object orientation became a paradigm: Smalltalk created OO, not Simula. Object != Object Ori
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by gnaritas 9y ago
What you mean is, why can't you take everything that makes Smalltalk great away, and make it work like every other file based language. The answer is, because then it would suck.
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by gnaritas 9y ago
Smalltalk is not "yet another programming language"; Smalltalk is the language all those other OO programming languages copied. You should look into it because it is the source of the object oriented paradigm and it'll make
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by gnaritas 9y ago
That's not remotely whataboutism; whataboutism is when you're deflecting to another bad to justify something, I'm not deflecting nor justifying, I'm using reductio ad absurdum to make a point that everything is bad with

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