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gizajob
29d ago
You just repeated the same mistake but with more detail.
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29d ago
But I was a supporter of the EU who noticed this. Like I comment elsewhere, the EU is like Teflon and resistant to critique - when there is an issue or a defect we get comments like yours “yes yes but this isn’t the actual process, that is
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29d ago
It is taking its course, which is why parties such as AfD are winning elections in Germany.
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29d ago
You really think contemporary Scots are going to be alright with that? If we’re saying that Brexit has been economically disastrous for Britain then it seems exiting the UK could be even worse. I’d support the Scots doing it though if they
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29d ago
WW1 wasn’t a world war by that metric then.
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29d ago
Yeah, an English-speaking mess.
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29d ago
I think you’ve fallen into the common trap in believing that there was a simple narrative which can be used to understand the Brexit vote, when the data shows there were 17 million different and varied reasons within a mass resistant to mod
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29d ago
But as it’s proven time and time again, when there’s democratic pushback and rejection of its ideas, it just ignores the democracy and continues with the ideas regardless. The Lisbon treaty being rejected has just led to all its aims being
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Because it’s a fully integrated part of France.
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29d ago
I think if you keep researching one of the things that killed the referendum last time was the British government saying a hard no to continued use of the pound while scotland applied to the EU and joined the Euro. Now of course they could
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29d ago
So you’re saying 56% of Canadians would vote No?
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29d ago
Nevertheless when put to British voters 50% of them decided that best possible deal still wasn’t in their interests. And that 50% who voted No was more people than even voted in the EU elections (to elect MEPs) before that. So the EU was
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29d ago
I think this is what will kill it in Canada too. There’s maybe only a million Canadian citizens who would be interested in the idea of freedom of movement to Europe. There’s probably 10-20 million Canadian citizens who would be a hard “abso
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29d ago
It would be towards “The United States of Germany”, not Europe.
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1mo ago
Likely as unacceptable to Canadians.
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1mo ago
I’m not sure what the EU has to trade, except Volkswagens and BMWs which are 10% car and 90% pension costs.
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1mo ago
Follow, yes. Say, very little.
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1mo ago
A majority of Canadians haven’t decided this in an election, and I doubt that 20 million of them would be on board with it.
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1mo ago
I kind of made a point like this in the other thread - during Brexit it was a very hard No from the EU that they couldn’t negotiate on key points such as freedom of movement, and countries are either IN and have everything the EU comes with
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1mo ago
Ok, Soviet.
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gizajob
1mo ago
An internal war as it falls apart, not an external war.
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1mo ago
That can’t happen though because they’d be without a currency in the interim period and it’s also baked in to the EU’s treaties to make this difficult else places like Catalonia and the Basque Country would break away and join the EU, so th
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1mo ago
Yes but someone will need to step in and adjudicate once everyone in Europe has enough of living in the United States of Germany and there’s another war over it.
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1mo ago
No
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1mo ago
You’re projecting about my feelings. It seems a strange paradox that associate membership is on the table for Canada when it was a hard no to any idea like that where it came to the UK. As hard as the Brexit was, the EU refused to budge and
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So it seems likely that the EU will be the cause of the third one.
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My main point in this thread was about Ursula proposing that the EU is democratic while she benefits from it not being democratic. I’m more just stirring the pot rather than kvetching. The more distance we get from Brexit it becomes easier
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I agree that he’s a laughable character but they were laughing at the very idea he might do what he was saying he was going to do, rather than taking him seriously. If they’d have taken it seriously, the UK might still be part of the EU. Sh
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I could go into exhaustive details, but the EU made absolutely no case to the British people why they should be part of the EU, and that case is still unmade. Brexit was an EU political issue happening inside the EU yet it and the British p
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I feel like you might not know much about the peace process in NI. If you’d like to see a return to things getting blown up and catholics being gunned down by loyalists, then suggest conducting a vote on joining Ireland and leaving the UK.
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