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11y ago
Agreed, enterprisy patterns haven't helped Java. But sorry, no, I do not think it's a good language. It doesn't really do anything well, it's all luke warm and compelcted. It insists on types, but they have no power and
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"It is actually not a bad language and with an IDE like Eclipse or inteliJ you can be quite productive." Just as the guy with two broken legs can get around a little bit using a wheelchair. Yes, the wheelchair might be great, but
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11y ago
I wish, but unfortunately I do backend work in Java as well. The relative expressiveness and simplicity of JavaScript saves me from Stockholm syndrome, I guess. But still... Every time I touch Java I have to puke a little in my mouth while
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11y ago
Concurrency would be a little bit easier. Not much else would have changed.
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11y ago
No, I do not realise that. Popularity doesn't equal quality. Summoning Paul Graham again: http://paulgraham.com/pypar.html
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11y ago
Spot on. Java is such a sad language, so verbose, so cumbersome, so inexpressive, radiating such a condescending stupidity. Its pervasiveness today, at the end of fucking 2015, is just depressing.
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11y ago
Me too. Impression, admittedly only from reading about it and looking at a few code samples, is that Angular 2 is over engineered and complected, as is 1.x, which I have worked in daily for over a year. ReactJs is much more appealing these
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I don't know about magic, but Elm with an Elixir/Phoenix backend seems quite nice. http://www.cultivatehq.com/posts/phoenix-elm-1/
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Stockholm syndrome.
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11y ago
The latest version of Meteor actually comes with support for Angular and React — so if you want it, it shouldn't be too hard to add. Personally, I guess I've grown a bit disenchanted with Angular lately. It makes some things easy,
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11y ago
I haven't tried using Angular with Meteor, but I know both pretty well. I would recommend trying Meteor with just Blaze (its rendering engine) before adding Angular. Maybe it's enough and you don't need Angular's added c
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11y ago
I really wish developers today (in the 2000s, for Christ's sake) didn't have to deal with such a horrible UI. The Unix Hater's Hanbook says it well: "The original Unix solved a problem and solved it well, as did the Roma
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Damning with faint praise. Often, you don't need to know what's going on under the hood, and often it's not very interesting.
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11y ago
Deleted by MI6, obviously.
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11y ago
The latter. The virtues of Elixir is that it is a functional language with immutable data structures, and that it does not support object oriented programming (which I consider a feature).
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11y ago
I think Elm makes good strides toward this goal: http://debug.elm-lang.org/
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11y ago
Agree. ReactJS was inspired by Elm as far as I know, Purescript has a framework purescript-signal that is inspired by Elm, ClojureScript has Zelkova that is inspired by Elm, and on it goes. Makes it more and more tempting to just go straigt
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> How does clojurescript compare to elm/purescript ? Clojurescript is a Lisp with dynamic typing, Elm/Purescript are ML dialects where (static) typing is much more important, in Purescript more so than Elm. I think Elm is inter
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Lost in the Bazar...
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JS isn't Java. It usually doesn't need the design patterns of more brittle OOP languages.
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> It's the future. It's the now. Elm is the future elm-lang.org
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11y ago
It will take you less than a day to learn to read CoffeeScript if you are familiar with JS.
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11y ago
Check out Elm. Only for Web though.
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It gets even better, there's an ongoing free course on Edx based on that book: https://courses.edx.org/courses/course-v1:UBCx+SPD1x+2T2015/...
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I am rooting for Elm, very interesting.
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> When do you switch off your transpiler and serve native ES6? In 2020? Never, probably. Why would you? When most browsers support ES6 you would want to write in ES7, or 8, or TypeScript, or CoffeeScript, or — most likely — in some new e
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12y ago
You might want to watch this talk for some data on this subject: https://vimeo.com/74354480 "Some programming language theorists would have us believe that the one true path to working systems lies in powerful and expr
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<esc>:q!
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I have to agree. As ridiculous and disgusting Apple is as a company, OSX still offers the best UNIX experience. But I applaud any attemt to change that fact.
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