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em500
6y ago
In an earlier thread, some Oracle guy (not in the Oracle Linux team) mentioned that Oracle 8 actually builds from CentOS 8, rather than RHEL 8. I was a bit skeptical, since OL 8 usually releases much earlier than CentOS 8, but couldn'
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6y ago
I share your disappointment. Out of 150+ comments so far, I believe there has not been a single technical comment about the actual work involved in building a version-pinned RHEL clone. Without any experience myself (beyond some kernel buil
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6y ago
You're right, that should be awk -F, -v OFS=, '{print $4+$7, $0}' foo.csv | sort -n -k1 -t, | cut -f2- -d, Explanation: awk -F, -v OFS=, sets the input and output column separator to comma, '{print $4+$
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6y ago
https://blog.jooq.org/2016/03/17/10-easy-steps-to-a-complete...
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em500
6y ago
Concretely, awk -F, -v OFS=, {print $2+$3, $1, $2, $3}' foo.csv | sort -n | cut -d, -f2-
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em500
6y ago
AFAICT, Amazon Linux 2 is largely based on RHEL 7, not 8. So not at all nearly the same system. If you're "simply switching" from CentOS 8 to Amazon Linux 2, prepare to put some serious work into it.
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6y ago
If you just want to run a recent Ubuntu VM, you can use https://multipass.run/ from Canonical. (It uses hyperkit rather than xhyve as the hypervisor.)
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6y ago
Docker is using hyperkit [1], an xhyve fork that's still actively developed. [1] https://github.com/moby/hyperkit
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6y ago
An important omission here is that Amazon Linux 2 is based on RHEL 7, not RHEL 8. (At least, most of the userland is, they do use newer kernels.) Which means it's competing against CentOS 7, not 8 or Stream. Curiously, Amazon only sup
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6y ago
The OP is a Debian developer / Project Leader [1], maintaining quite a few packages, not some rando "Debian fanboy". [1] https://wiki.debian.org/highvoltage
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6y ago
> What makes you think that CentOS was killed? Their own announcement yesterday. > It will be available and actively maintained. CentOS8 will not be after 31 December 2021, that's what they announced yesterday. CentOS7 will be, u
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6y ago
It should be well known by now that if you're running Windows 10, Microsoft is your system administrator, and can control (at least technically) exactly what runs on your computer. Unless maybe if you really put time/effort into s
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6y ago
No, the fundamental problem is not Pareto / power law. The fundamental problem is simply a huge supply of musicians. There's only 8bln total revenue / year in total to be divided. That's just not much for more than a mil
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6y ago
That doesn't answer my question how Oracle got some 8.x builds released weeks/months earlier than CentOS.
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em500
6y ago
Exactly this. No need to drag Pareto out of the barn just because you see 80%. The fundamental issue is a huge supply of wannabe musicians. If the distribution were completely flat, nobody rather than a small percentage would be making a li
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6y ago
Spotify's total revenue is around 8bln/year. It's a bit hard to establish how many musicians are active on Spotify, but the sparse info on the web suggests that it's at least a million. Those 2 numbers tell you enough if
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em500
6y ago
It might be "huge and awesome good news" if they keep both CentOS 8.x and CentOS Stream. But they're forcing Stream as a replacement, hence all the pushback. Let's be honest, most people just want to run a gratis release
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em500
6y ago
LOL at the corporate guff. The primary use case of CentOS is "I want to run RHEL without paying anyone anything". The best way to "serve that need"? Don't kill off CentOS 8.3+.
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6y ago
I didn't know Oracle builds from CentOS rather than RHEL sources. Nor that RHEL doesn't release sources anymore? If that's true, I wonder how Oracle got some of their 8.x releases out much earlier than CentOS. (Oracle Linux 8
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6y ago
To me this news is at once shocking, and blindingly obvious in hindsight. Shocking, because I'd never imagined they'd kill off CentOS 8 so early. CentOS 8.0 dates from Sept 2019, so it's killed in just the 3rd year of its pre
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6y ago
Can I download and run Amazon Linux at home (non-vm)?
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6y ago
http://yum.oracle.com/oracle-linux-isos.html Disclaimer: not affiliated with Oracle in any way. This is just the closest thing to a plain RHEL8 clone I know of, other than CentOS8.
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em500
6y ago
I share your pessimism about RHEL. I think Canonical could be a big beneficiary, if they can stop shooting themselves in the foot with stuff like upsells for live kernel patches, and snaps for non-desktop apps.
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em500
6y ago
SL never released version 8 (they switched to CentOS8). Amazon (correct me if I'm wrong) does not release installer ISOs. AFAIK, closest to a plain free RHEL8 clone is Oracle Linux.
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6y ago
> Does this mean that CentOS 8 is EOL come 2021? They've just eradicated almost all mentions of CentOS 8 from their main website. So: yes. > What about everybody who built their product on the assumption that there would be a sta
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6y ago
There's already Oracle Linux. (Not and endorsement, not affiliated, just surprised that there seems very little awareness about it.)
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6y ago
If they just want a free (beer) RHEL clone, the best choice might turn out to be ... Oracle Linux. Who would have thought?
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6y ago
What "the point" of headphones is, is of course subjective. But I'm going to guess that for most people, the point of using headphones is have their audio portable and/or to not disturb other people. I don't think m
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6y ago
Their current 28-core Mac Pro (which even has a rack version) is probably not a volume business either, that doesn't stop them from making them. It's probably much cheaper to go for the performance crown with their own CPU now th
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6y ago
Depending on the workload, that's not as impressive as it sounds at first. Single threaded M1 performance is around 50-60% better than the 18-core Xeon in the iMac (which is impressive). But high-core CPUs are typically slower per co
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