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by diggan 1y ago
> The topics in the talk are not new. Sure, but your initial dismissal ("95% X, 5% Y") is literally about this talk no? And when you say 'it's "in one ear, out the other" with most of his audience' that
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by diggan 1y ago
> Usefulness of LLMs has yet to be proven. What about ML (Machine Learning) as a whole? I kind of wrote ML instead of LLMs just to avoid this specific tangent. Are you feelings about that field the same?
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by diggan 1y ago
But is it curious ? Is it thoughtful and substantive? Maybe it could have been thoughtful, if it felt like it was in response to what was mentioned in the submission.
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by diggan 1y ago
That's a lot of people to talk to in a day more or less, since the talk happened. Were they all there and you too, or you all had a watch party or something? Still, what's the outcome of our "glazed donut" argument, you
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by diggan 1y ago
> is the _reason_ why these disciplines Would you say that ML isn't a successful discipline? ML is basically balancing between "formal language" (papers/algorithms) and "non-deterministic outcomes" (weights&
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by diggan 1y ago
> coding is no longer the problem. "Coding" - The art of literally using your fingers to type weird characters into a computer, was never a problem developers had. The problem has always been understanding and communication, an
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by diggan 1y ago
> Is that bad? It doesn't have to be. But it does get somewhat boring and trite after a while when you start noticing that certain subjects on HN tend to attract general and/or samey comments about $thing, rather than the submi
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by diggan 1y ago
I think this is the moment you're referring to? https://youtu.be/LCEmiRjPEtQ?si=QWkimLapX6oIqAjI&t=236 > maybe you've seen a lot of GitHub code is not just like code anymore there's a bunch of like Eng
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by diggan 1y ago
> English is a terrible language for deterministic outcomes in complex/complicated systems I think that you seem to be under the impression that Karpathy somehow alluded to or hinted at that in his talk, which indicates you haven&#x
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by diggan 1y ago
> distilled from experiences reported by multiple companies Distilled from my experience, I'd still say that the UX is lacking, as sequential chat just isn't the right format. I agree with Karpathy that we haven't found th
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by diggan 1y ago
> o3-mini-2025-01-31 with high reasoning effort replied with "Hi" after 448 reasoning tokens. I got "hi", as expected. What is the full system prompt + user message you're using? https://i.imgur.com&#x
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by diggan 1y ago
> would it be able decide when to create a job description? If you can encode how you/your company does that decision as a human with text, I don't see why not. But personally there is a lot of subjectivity (for better or worse
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by diggan 1y ago
> But if you take into account all the training costs Not everyone has to paid that cost, as some companies are releasing weights for download and local use (like Llama) and then some other companies are going even further and releasing
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by diggan 1y ago
> Does anybody really want to be an assembly line QA reviewer for an automated code factory? Sounds like shit. On the other hand, does anyone really wanna be a code-monkey implementing CRUD applications over and over by following product
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by diggan 1y ago
> LLMs don’t know what it is Of course they don't, they're probability/prediction machines, they don't "know" anything, not even that Paris is the capital of France. What they do "know" is that onc
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by diggan 1y ago
> If "AI" worked (which fortunately isn't the case), humans would be degraded to passive consumers in the last domain in which they were active creators: thinking. "AI" (depending on what you understand that to b
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by diggan 1y ago
There a few of us around, but it's not a lot, agree. It really is an uphill battle trying to get development teams to design and implement test suites the same way they do with other "more important" code.
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by diggan 1y ago
I think you'll be waiting for a very long time. Right now we have programmable LLMs, so if you're not getting the results, you need to reprogram it to give the results you want.
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by diggan 1y ago
You and me both :) But I always try to read the comments here with the most charitable interpretation I can come up with.
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by diggan 1y ago
Which model? Just tried a bunch of ChatGPT, OpenAI's API, Claude, Anthropic's API and DeepSeek's API with both chat and reasonee, every single one replied with a single "hi".
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by diggan 1y ago
> If you're very critical of code quality then it's much tougher I'm not sure, I'm hearing developers I know are sloppy and produce shit code both having no luck with LLMs, and some of them having lots of luck with th
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by diggan 1y ago
Interesting thought, if nothing less. Unless I misunderstand, it would be easy to run a study to see if this is true; use the API to send the same but slightly different prompt (as to avoid the caches) which has a definite answer, then run
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by diggan 1y ago
But parent explicitly mentioned: > - yes I've tried giving it prompts so detailed a literal infant could follow along and accomplish the task Which you are saying that might have missed in the end regardless?
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by diggan 1y ago
> A truly terrible and demotivating way to work and produce anything of real quality You clearly have strong feelings about it, which is fine, but it would be much more interesting to know exactly why it would terrible and demotivating,
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by diggan 1y ago
Yeah I mean I agree with you, but I'm still not sure how it's relevant. I'd also urge people to have unit tests they treat as production code, and proper system prompts, and X and Y, but it's really beyond the original p
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by diggan 1y ago
> underestimates their potential for growth As far as I understood the talk and the analogies, he's saying that local models will eventually replace the current popular "mainframe" architecture. How is that underestimating
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by diggan 1y ago
If anything I wished the conversation turned away from "vibe-coding" which was essentially coined as a "lol look at this go" thing, but media and corporations somehow picked up as "This is the new workflow all devel
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by diggan 1y ago
Sure, but maybe suggesting that the person who literally spent countless hours educating others on how to build small models locally from scratch, is lacking knowledge about local small models is going a bit beyond "people have blind s
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by diggan 1y ago
I was trying to make a point regarding "reliability", not a point about how to prompt or how to use them for work.
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by diggan 1y ago
I don't know exactly how Claude works, but the way I work around this with my own stuff is prompting it to not display full outputs ever, and instead temporary redirect the output somewhere then grep from the log-file what it's lo

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