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by dang 3mo ago
> HN also hosted a likely war criminal to talk about his experiencing killing children in gaza. WTF? What do you mean by "hosted"? I know it's the internet's happy place to blithely accuse others of monstrosity and th
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by dang 3mo ago
Perhaps you could explain why?
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by dang 3mo ago
I don't know what "bugged" means but what you're seeing is probably an artifact of HN's re-upping system. We re-upped this thread and that relativized the timestamps on the previously existing comments ( https:&#x2F
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by dang 3mo ago
That's not true- can I ask what you saw that made you come to that conclusion?
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by dang 3mo ago
I agree with your second paragraph - in fact I posted something pretty sympatico a couple hours ago: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=48887812 . But I have such a different reaction to pg's article that I can't
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by dang 3mo ago
That definitely wasn't a genai-related issue but the kind of issue it was is a knot that I'm too tired to untangle right now!
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by dang 3mo ago
Sorry, I was posting hastily and can see how that was unclear. Unfortunately I've forgotten my point. Perhaps it was this: there are many non-native English speakers who have valuable things to contribute to HN, who don't yet have
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by dang 3mo ago
I do hear this sometimes but it's not clear to me how prevalent this is. I'd need to see specific examples. Edit: these are just gut-feeling numbers but we've had many dozens (perhaps hundreds) of email exchanges with users a
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by dang 3mo ago
It's just a list of posts that we tagged manually and then defined a URL endpoint for. We do that sometimes, but rarely enough that I can understand the confusion. Keep in mind that we have a REPL over here and can make any link do any
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by dang 3mo ago
There have definitely been cases of "good" genai articles that led to quite good HN threads. (Don't ask me for links - alas but my sandblasted memory doesn't retain anything.) I guess my response to that is we want the m
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by dang 3mo ago
Another good question I don't know the answer to! Which is probably why we haven't done it yet. I guess the idea is that if lots of people flag a comment for the "genai" reason then we can treat that a more precise commu
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by dang 3mo ago
It's a fair question and I don't have a good answer yet, other than to say that comment content and article content are two very different spheres.
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by dang 3mo ago
Ok, but we're not talking about all AI usage. We're talking about using AI to process text that gets published for others to read. There are tons of ways to use AI that don't intersect with that.
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by dang 3mo ago
It's true! Or maybe 20% or 60% or 80%.
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by dang 3mo ago
I'd need to see specific links, but many of those posts are probably being killed because our software classified them as being genai, which is not allowed on HN (see https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html#gen
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by dang 3mo ago
What did you think flagging was for? (Genuine question) It's true that we don't spell things out precisely, but that's because it's impossible to spell things out fully precisely. If you start, where do you stop?
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by dang 3mo ago
I'm afraid I don't understand this - can I ask what was the sibling comment? Maybe that will help me triangulate.
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by dang 3mo ago
Kudos to you for responding exactly as I asked! That is rare to begin with, and more so when I'm being irritable. Big respect. I can see how using the word "good" was confusing, but I just meant the opposite of "comments
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by dang 3mo ago
That's interesting, thank you! My only pushback is that my bit about "allergy" and "status" is about the audience response here, whereas you seem to be talking on a somewhat different level.
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by dang 3mo ago
LLMs are unquestionably useful. The number of things I've used them to accomplish on HN—things that I've wanted to do for over a decade—is mind-blowing. Performance optimizations, log file anlaysis, tracking down race conditions—i
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by dang 3mo ago
Not on HN they weren't. Right?
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by dang 3mo ago
I like people who follow the site guidelines and want to use HN as intended. That doesn't mean I dislike people who don't, but that side of the moon is more...nuanced.
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by dang 3mo ago
> In private conversation with you, you have confirmed that if I flag/vouch stuff you mods don’t agree with, I get the privilege taken away, even if I genuinely believe a post to fall outside of the guidelines. People love to mak
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by dang 3mo ago
What you say implies that people should "learn and improve their English" before posting their work to HN. I'm not with you on that, and here's why: we're trying to optimize for the most-intellectually-interesting s
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by dang 3mo ago
This is a nested-enough subthread that I can say whatever I want because no one will ever link to it because if they do no one will care. The class of comments you're talking about—not just ones that say "clanker" literally b
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by dang 3mo ago
Damn you people for asking good questions that go straight to the fuzzy areas! I don't know for sure yet. But you're right that that would follow from what I said. What I do know is that users should flag articles that they think
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by dang 3mo ago
I agree to an extent, but there are many exceptions, so one can't really withhold the benefit of the doubt. For example, non-native English speakers (as is the case with these guys IIRC) frequently use these tools. Maybe they shouldn&
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by dang 3mo ago
Can you please not post AI-generated or AI-edited comments to HN? It's not allowed here - see https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html#generated and https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=47340079
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by dang 3mo ago
Interesting points! though I don't follow them all. > 1st: the presumption that AI generated text is actually unsuccessful, rather than proliferating broadly unchallenged today I can only talk about HN. If you think this is prolif
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by dang 3mo ago
Your post ( https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=47493096 ) might also have been downvoted for saying "Be better", which is an internet putdown trope.

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