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4mo ago
You're essentially just saying that you can't imagine a world in which there are business models that are different than the existing business models today. Which I don't really get, because there are plenty of businesses tha
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4mo ago
> An AI training is not equivalent to a human learning, despite how we like to anthropomorphize the process How is it different in a way that's relevant here? > My point is that even if someone did want to do the work, the ben
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> * training for free on everyone's work* "Training on other people's work" has always been free for anyone to do for the entire history of humanity, and that shouldn't change. You do not get paid just because so
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4mo ago
That's called taxes, and I'm all for it.
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Copyright is literally the granting of monopolies. That's the whole point of it. Copyright benefits huge corporations way more than "the little guy." The biggest holders of copyrights and patents are huge corporations, many o
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4mo ago
"Deriving value" from what came before doesn't mean that what came before is owed some sort of check. And thank god, or the world would be a horrible place full of rent seekers.
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4mo ago
> This chain has been using expropriate, not extract. Not sure why you mentioned that. Sure, my bad. > They stole copyrighted work without permission. While we're nitpicking language, you can't "steal" copyrigh
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4mo ago
The fact that somebody benefited from the output of your work is not the same thing as extracting your labor. Extracting your labor means that before you even create the work, they're conscripting you to do it. For example, I created a
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4mo ago
It's not so simple to determine and generalize how much value AI adds. It's going to be different on a per-company basis and a per-engineer basis. It's also affected by the competitive market place and how many other companie
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4mo ago
What labor did any of us have to get up and go do for the AI companies?
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4mo ago
I strongly dislike the belief that people should be compensated when others find ingenious ways to profit off of publicly-available data. We live in a world where "creating value" (doing things that others find helpful) and "
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4mo ago
Anything that promises anti-aging, better looks, making money, finding your soulmate, total safety and security, etc., is going to lend itself to outrageous marketing. Because these are some of the chief desires of humanity.
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4mo ago
I think it's the opposite
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4mo ago
I mean if you focus on the negative and ignore the positive (which is what many people + the media do), you could say it's overall a regressive period. But you could do that (and people have) literally every year for the past 80 years.
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4mo ago
There have always been bumps on the path upward. It's never been smooth. Doesn't change the fact that we're not going to shit, and that we haven't been going to shit for hundreds of years. Quite the opposite.
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4mo ago
> GTA 6 was basicallly thrown away and rewritten How do you know? This sounds like an unverified rumor.
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4mo ago
That's always going to be true no matter what trajectory the world is heading in. The point is that, on average, individual experiences are improving, decade by decade. Humanity is doing a remarkable job.
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5mo ago
You're wrong from your very premise. The world isn't going to shit. It's better than it's been at pretty much any time in human history, in almost every facet.
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5mo ago
Having read all of the above, I think it is fair to say that this is a study about what these people "thought." Just because their thought involves some homegrown, personally-favored metrics, doesn't change the fact that this
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5mo ago
Sure, but I don't think Google's primary issue is that they aren't starting enough projects.
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Yes, but this is exactly my point. You can't perfectly calculate exactly how much revenue is lost due to breaking trust with users because you repeatedly sunset projects that they've relied on. Maybe if Google had those support en
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5mo ago
Yeah, there are costs for sure. But this is "zombie software" with millions, probably tens of millions of users. And Google has ~80,000 engineers? And the company prints an incredible amount of money. I think the real cost/ri
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I'm sure that Google internally is well aware of the negative press that comes with product shutdowns, and is doing them regardless as a deliberate strategic tradeoff where they believe the benefits outweigh the costs. But it's ve
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5mo ago
I had the exact same thought. It depends entirely on what voice you read it in, I suppose.
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I'm sure Anthropic wants him to have as much reach as possible, not abandon his primary distribution channel just to please an extreme minority of the population.
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My mom uses to take and create pictures of things: identifying birds, identifying trees, and showing her house with different decor. I didn't teach her any of this, she just figured it out on her own. A non-tech friend of mine who'
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5mo ago
Comes from the Eminem song Stan, about an obsessed fan named Stan.
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Right, but if you control access to a market of millions of people, a lot of companies will do what you say (i.e. follow your laws) in order to retain access to that market, as well as protect their local employees from jail. I would say th
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Elon and Bezos aren't more powerful than Kuwait. Kuwait is a sovereign government, with authority to write laws, raise an army, and do whatever it wants with its 5M+ citizens (draft them, imprison people, execute people, etc.) with pre
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5mo ago
Your other comments seem to imply that you believe that your decisions are popular, i.e. a customer base that hates you.
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