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12y ago
I get what you mean. Impressive. What kind of tools do you guys have in the works? How is the compliance toolkit working out?
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12y ago
Thanks! We're not nearly where you are though. :) We have a couple of things in place. When an employer is running payroll: they have 2 points to review (both employee and their payroll as a whole) the totals in USD, 2FA step, and then
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12y ago
Amazing answer and awesome link. That would be a massive boon. What startup do you work for?
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Thank you for the support! And thank you for your feedback. We do have some stuff that ZenPayroll currently doesn't have such as the btc (which you mentioned) and our paycheck distribution which allows for employees to automatically ta
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12y ago
You're absolutely correct. It will be difficult for them. It will be even more difficult depending if they've just purchased the coin or have held it for a while.
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12y ago
You're right. We understand that and are offering our beta customers help doing the tax portion of things. We still have a lot to do, but we're just getting started!
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12y ago
You're right. We should probably put our profiles up. We get busy with product(s) and we tend to not focus on talking about ourselves as much as we probably should. We're admittedly not the best at marketing or PR. We'll put
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12y ago
We've chatted with the Bitwage guys. Good guys. We respect what they're doing. Well there are a few differences currently, and even more coming over the next month - 2 months. But the ones that are currently available: 1. Interfac
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12y ago
It does have some similarities, but we put the majority of the control in the employees' hands. This not only makes the employer's lives easier, but also allows the employee to update how their paid at any point in time. This is o
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12y ago
Hey! Cody from Incoin here. It would be rad and it's in our roadmap. Employers currently do fund payroll in USD, but we're working on adding the ability to fund payroll in BTC. And you're absolutely correct. We would save in
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Show HN: Incoin.io – Bitcoin and Distributed Payroll
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Very true. That's why we offer employees the option choose what percentage of their paycheck to receive in BTC and USD (hope to add other currencies soon). The idea isn't to get paid in BTC and then to exchange it. We're idea
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12y ago
With our system you will just pay one fee to accomplish your end goal. The ACH debit and BTC transaction fee doesn't cost you any more. It should eliminate the 3-8% on exchanges for foreign currency, the wire transfer fees, and the BTC
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Thanks for the support. And you're correct. We answered a bit about us. We're going to start simply with 1-3 states and then build out as we go. https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=7916812
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You're absolutely correct. Part of our need to build this was to enable employees to have reporting for the BTC/USD price when they were paid in it vs. when they sell. The idea is for them to make their lives more simple in this r
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We want to add other coins for sure. We're going to get BTC right during the beta and then start adding other coins as we go. Maybe we could open up voting.
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We're using this internally right now, and that's a risk we wanted to mitigate for ourselves. Pretty sure that no-one wants to assume this risk. The companies that use our service don't own or transact in Bitcoin. Wages are s
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12y ago
Extremely valid concerns. We're trying to be as secure as possible — personal data is strongly encrypted in our database, we're using tokens instead of bank details to keep things more secure, we're implementing 2FA for login
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Unfortunately not right now. We're looking at this from a startup's point of view, and putting our SaaS code on github isn't something we're looking ATM. We will be work on releasing an API for others to use.
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That's a great question — and that is one of the first issues (alongside bitcoin) that we want to get right. Garnishments, withholdings, and taxes vary state to state, and sometimes city by city. We're working with our tax lawyers
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This. Also it simplifies things. If you get paid in USD, then you still pay the transfer fees to get bitcoin. It's more manual than just receiving part or all of your paycheck in BTC every month.
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No don't worry. It doesn't come off as critical at all. I would say its about split. Several of them buy a lot online which helps. They use it in real life occasionally, but often just change it into dollars when they need cash&#x
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From what our lawyers are telling us, that's right on the money. It's treated as a barter so you pay taxes on the USD equivalent if I remember correctly.
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Ya! We've seen them, but we haven't been able to use their site yet.
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100%. We're definitely aware of the legal side, and we're working with a team of lawyers and accountants on this particular issue.
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Show HN: Dead simple Bitcoin payroll
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Great! That's the goal.
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That's an awesome idea. Maybe even some partnerships. We talked about doing an extended warranty/insurance program of our own where you can get insurance on the devices you register. Dunno yet though.
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You're right. Right now we use ProtectYourBubble and it allows us to cover devices, electronics, and appliances. It's a decent start.
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Noooooo. Just pushed an update. Nice catch.
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