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caconym_
5y ago
I'd fully expect it to copy code and change variable names in a lot of cases--if it wants to achieve the goal of filling in boilerplate, how could it do anything else? That's pretty much the definition of boilerplate: it's la
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caconym_
5y ago
You're using some pretty strong language here, but do you have any more substantive criticisms of the analysis they present at https://docs.github.com/en/github/copilot/research-recitatio... ? They seem
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5y ago
"Shouldn't" isn't the same as "doesn't". I'm not anything close to an ML expert, and I have no opinion on whether what they're aiming for is possible, but this document^[1] (linked in your linked
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5y ago
> I think only Github's lawyers would interpret what GP posted the way you did. Looks like weasel wording to make such an interpretation possible, So what are you suggesting here, except that Github is attempting a legal sleight-of-
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5y ago
I think that until somebody shows that Copilot is willing to copy distinctive code fragments verbatim, unprompted, with a high occurrence rate, I'm not going to start accusing Github of building an engine to cynically exploit the IP
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5y ago
This actually seems like an explicit acknowledgement that regurgitation is possible, and not remotely a claim that it is "simply not possible". It stands to reason that cases where people are intentionally trying to produce regu
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5y ago
> Oftentimes the authors will claim regurgitation is simply not possible Do the Copilot authors claim this? I get that you're suggesting that Copilot may benefit from absolute claims made by the authors of other, similar systems (or
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5y ago
As someone who gets paid to write code (nominally) and has also written a few novels, I don't agree with this characterization. From what I've seen of Copilot, it's more like having a text editor generate your next sentence o
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5y ago
> No. We both aren't You say I'm not ... but then you say, explicitly in so many words, that I am: > You are speculating how copyright law should handle ML code synthesis. I don't get it. Am I, or aren't I? Which i
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5y ago
> You are making arguments about what you read instead of objectively observing how copilot operates. Of course I am. We are both participating in a speculative discussion of how copyright law should handle ML code synthesis. I think thi
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5y ago
Don't forget your family's lungs. I don't really order the right sorts of things, but my wife often orders things that arrive smelling like they were dipped in benzene before leaving the factory. Kind of a good metaphor for h
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5y ago
> Your argument would have some merit if something were created instead of assembled, but there is no new algorithm that is being created. That is not what is happening here. If you're going to set such a high standard for ML tools
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5y ago
It looks like that design has diverged significantly from the Sandia one, probably because they couldn't manage the tolerances the Sandia design needs. Given that it's a first attempt to bring the concept to market, and that it ap
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5y ago
But, realistically, what recourse do users have if there's a breach? A few years ago I got a letter from Washington State University saying that they'd obtained my personal health data (which I never directly consented to, nor had
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5y ago
> There are two kinds of users: those who back up their data, and those who haven't experienced a data loss yet. I have never had a significant data loss, and I back up my data. The weaknesses of cloud are obvious, and alone it'
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5y ago
Whoa, Obsidian looks awesome. Thanks for the tip, I'm trying it now and it looks like everything I've been wishing for. Required proprietary cloud is a hard no for me. In today's world of crazy feature churn and products bein
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5y ago
> They expected the camera not to drop frames [...] That is what's being discussed here It isn't, actually. The comment I responded to, and the one it linked to, are broadly criticizing the sensor fusion/control loop imple
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5y ago
> While I understand you're trying to point out hubris, you're swaying the other way and appealing to authority. I'm appealing to the fact that they sent the thing to Mars and flew it. If you think "any hobbyist"
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5y ago
Does anyone else feel like it's almost always a pickup truck? This article^[1] that I found a while back claims occupants of a car are 2.5 times more likely to die in a collision with a pickup truck than another car. It's an atroc
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5y ago
Do any of these commenters have experience designing small "helicopter" "drone" avionics systems using off-the-shelf hardware, as in Ingenuity? For instance, you mention "aerospace grade" inertial sensors, yet
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5y ago
> So you think its better to simply feed these folks and ensure they are ok will somehow motivate them to work ? Care to show me where I said any such thing, or even implied it? > Perhaps instead of letting the govt get away with viol
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5y ago
In the context of this thread, and in particular the top level comment you initially replied to, who do you imagine is suggesting we teach people that?
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5y ago
As a matter of physical reality, the universe owes us nothing. It was quite content to allow such things as the Atlantic slave trade and the Holocaust, which took people’s lives completely out of their own hands and utterly destroyed them.
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> and causes blood clots as are widely reported How did I manage to miss these "widely reported" clotting issues with the mRNA vaccines? Are you thinking of the extremely low-incidence clotting issues reported with the AZ and J
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5y ago
I’m not immersed in IRC culture but I used to hang out on Freenode a bit, and I think it’s quite obvious that top-down dictatorial decisions like the recent “hijacking” of channels for mentioning Libera (or whatever actually happened there)
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5y ago
> I think it's a real stretch to call this a moral issue. After your little tribute to Niemöller there, I'm surprised you'd claim otherwise—but maybe you just find it a useful rhetorical device to use as a bludgeon in your
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> They are not economic parasites. They are the physical manifestation of the Invisible Hand. Why do you (apparently) imagine these things are mutually exclusive? > maybe NVidia should start pricing their products correctly so that th
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5y ago
My next GPU is going to be one that a) supports the features I want, and b) that I can actually go out and buy without putting hundreds or thousands of dollars into some economic parasite’s pocket. It’s not just “hard” to buy high-end GPUs
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I think the issue is less about coming up with shapes that fly well in the sim (or even in the wind tunnel), and more about turning those shapes into practical aircraft. Computers can’t really help us with that (yet) except at a really gran
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> I mean on HN you really do see a very anti-cruise ship sentiment whenever the topic comes up. For sure, and in other contexts too, but I don’t think the issue of not being able to buy gas because cruise ships exist comes up often (most
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