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brutusborn
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brutusborn
3y ago
Baseless speculation: they started testing an approach similar to VERSES AI and realized it has much more potential than LLMs. The free energy principle, knowledge graph approach just seems more likely to develop general intelligence withou
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I guess it’s true if you look far enough back to the Bronze Age collapse or the growth and collapse of various empires.
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brutusborn
3y ago
Isn’t China essentially capitalist now? The main difference in my mind is authoritarianism vs liberalism.
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3y ago
Isn’t it equivalent insofar as Christian conceptions of charity aren’t prescriptive? Besides tithings, “love thy neighbour” or other Christian ideas can be interpreted in infinitely many ways, similar to EA. I think the morality of Christia
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3y ago
Crop yields are falling?
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3y ago
Wouldn’t that suggest it is accidental? Making it harder to understand a piece of software seems to cause people to look for easier to understand alternatives.
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3y ago
No, I asked you for figures and you quoted irrelevant ones. My belief is based on following costs in the energy industry. I’m happy to change my beliefs, but not without good reason.
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3y ago
That’s a lot of assumptions that don’t look correct. I don’t think you are right about the comparison, nuclear comes out ahead in most locales.
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I know, but this usage lulls people into a false sense of security because it’s “proven” to be safe. I think it’s important to differentiate when discussing safety and risk. I can’t think of a better word, maybe safety “testing”, since this
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Do you have any figures for the hydrogen storage vs nuclear point? I’m not saying you’re wrong but it goes against intuition. Both hydro storage and hydrogen have the same problem: not all locales have elevated valleys or underground cavern
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I completely agree: his introductory mention of the importance of good numbers to inform policy got me hopeful, and then he ignored storage which is possibly the most critical constraint for high renewable penetration. I’m hoping grid scale
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Apologies for being pedantic, but you can’t prove safety in the same way that you can’t prove any hypothesis. I agree that new chemicals should undergo better safety screenings, but we must be honest with ourselves: a screening does not “pr
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I like your example of prokaryotic microbes because I think it points to the difference in out points of view. Microbes evolved to increase their own chances of reproduction, they are inherently autopoietic. The AI risk arguments are usuall
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I wouldn’t class that as malicious. Companies do the exact same thing without AI. I’m trying to tease out what the diff is between a human manager who gives out tasks, and the AI. And how this diff could result in risks.
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I think I understand the general premise, just not how it would follow specifically. Say you have an AI that is setup as an agent that can give tasks to members of a company to maximise company performance measured by financials and employe
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I agree the potential exists, but what would incentivise someone to create a self-replicating system that is driven by its own self-interest and not the creators? The only reason I can think of is a mad-science type who just wants to watch
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Having info on someone’s trades doesn’t mean you know the basis for their trades. And by the time they have executed the trade any leaked info becomes less valuable. If that were the case then adversarial HFT algorithms wouldn’t work.
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How would it leak out?
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What about a single actor getting rich and leaving everyone else’s certainty unchanged?
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What makes it unlikely?
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I have wondered if this is the risk that Elon is worried about. But he can’t discuss it explicitly because he is working on such a system. If he communicates its existence, then he reveals a huge attack surface and makes his life (and his t
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Who do you find persuasive and what material should I read/watch to understand their POV? So far I’ve read a bunch of lesswrong posts and listened to some Eliezer talks but still can’t understand the basis of their arguments or when I
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I don’t know much about chip design, but am researching automated mechanical design and your description fits there too: most of the more successful approaches are based on old-school algorithms. I suspect machine learning can help speed th
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It’s acceptable in this context because there isn’t a good alternative. You either make the code and data available and lose all commercial value, or you publish a redacted paper and lose scientific value. I suspect the best solution is ref
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We have reached a stage where open papers on this kind of research are practically impossible: either google releases all data and code, and loses potential commercialisation value, or publishes a paper which no one can reproduce and is ind
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There are plenty of researchers using machine learning for NP-complete problems. Are you saying that this work is fruitless or just that the current state of the art is still in “1980s AI” territory?
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Or GOFAI?
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Isn’t constant evaluation the problem? If you don’t have to churn out papers to meet evaluation requirements then most of the perverse incentives disappear. It sounds like the best institutions hire great teams and just let them be. Check u
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Thanks for the correction! I really should have done a quick google search. From my point of view America is exceptional because their rights are often part of political discourse in a way that I don’t see at home or in my limited exposure
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I always find it interesting when people talk about their rights in these contexts. If the government can legally conscript you, surely you don’t have any rights? As far as I know the US is the only country with enumerated rights for citize
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