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Yeah, I agree. He went too far in that direction. I think he was wrong on some facts, and also didn't explain things in the best way. But I think it was wrong of many people to misrepresent what he said (as "women are inferior&quo
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Strikes, demonstrations, etc. are useful tools. Blacklists and firing people for political opinions are not, they often cause more harm than help.
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Of course no one expects you to tolerate every point of view. But we should tolerate moderate views across the political spectrum. The document was wrong in some points, but overall largely fit in with mainstream conservative politics. Many
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To try to give a reasoned answer: there must be limits. And the limits will always be somewhat arbitrary. But the limits implied by Google's actions are clearly unreasonable in two ways: 1. I agree we should not allow racial slurs, or
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It is a serious problem if people are hearing that - by which I mean, if many people understand the document one way, and many people understand it in a completely different way, then how can we even communicate as a society?
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> This guy told a very large amount of his co-workers that they're inferior to him That would be very disturbing, but that's not what's written in the document. Saying that there are average differences between groups, and
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9y ago
Affirmative action policies by definition change hiring in order to increase the number of minority candidates. That's why we progressives support them! Are you saying he's wrong for pointing out that Google has affirmative acti
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To describe it as "anti-diversity" kind of proves the manifesto's point - that one political side controls the debate. Because the manifesto clearly states it is for diversity, including diversity of gender and race (and ev
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One survey found 40% of women never experienced harassment, http://fortune.com/2016/01/11/survey-sexual-harassment-tech/ Of course every survey may be flawed or mistaken, and we need to read carefully ho
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The people that have the ability to fix it are the incredibly brave women coming forward. That's what's changing things. Otherwise, most of us have already been doing all we can. We don't do bad things, and we don't enab
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To really understand the issue, you need to look at all the facts. And yes, while women are underrepresented in open source, LGBT people are overrepresented - almost double their percentage in the general population in fact (7% vs 4%). So a
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A well-intentioned article, but it makes the usual set of mistakes. After discussing gender, racial, and other forms of diversity, it says this: > Unfortunately, when a single homogeneous group is designing and engineering the vast major
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9y ago
Facebook disabling 14,000 accounts in a single month because of that kind of terrible behavior does show this is a serious problem. But it's still a very rare problem. Given Facebook has 1.19 billion monthly users, that's on the o
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3 injured, one with life-threatening injuries, and Google isn't cancelling the event..? Wow. Google's statement: > "We’re thankful to the fire department for putting it out and ensuring everyone’s safety." Seems a poo
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> For Palantir’s software engineer position, for example, Palantir hired 14 non-Asian engineers and 11 Asian engineers — even though 85 percent of the 1,160 applicants for the position were Asian, according to the complaint Another inter
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10y ago
This isn't just the WSJ, also the LA times and Guardian have similar stories, all based on the recent court appearance (just search using that headline). It's a reasonable topic to report on, the government is accusing of Google o
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It sounds like they have more than just a suspicion, > “We found systemic compensation disparities against women pretty much across the entire workforce,” Janette Wipper, a DoL regional director, testified in court in San Francisco on Fr
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brighteyes
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More generally, philosophers like Peter Singer talk about the connection between human rights and animal rights. Singer describes "the expanding circle" in which moral progress involves accepting more people into the circle of tho
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brighteyes
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I think you might be a little too critical, but overall I think you're closer to the truth than the article. For example, Charmed [1] was on around the same time as Buffy, and shared many elements (positive critical reception, fantasy
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I've been a fan of Buffy since it aired. It certainly was amazing. At the same time, I feel the article goes a bit overboard with "birth of TV as art". For example, you can go back earlier to Twin Peaks as raising the bar for
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When psychologists or neuroscientists hear "male and female brains are from different planets", as the article writes, they cringe. It's true that there are some average differences between male and female brains [1], and we
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A relevant example is the massive success of games from Japan in the US, even though they were written by people from a different country and culture.
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> in 1985 37% of women had a degree in Computer Science. In 2010, this number rolled down to 18%. Without a doubt, this negative tendency will have a huge — and potentially demolishing — effect on tech companies. We'd all love to ha
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> If men become doctors and women become nurses, or if men become Software Engineers and women become Test Engineers, then there's still something wrong with the world. Imagine that doctors and nurses were paid the same. Would you s
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I could be wrong, but I think the point that the poster was making was this: Sure, maybe women are undervalued on average, but that's just on average. Assuming women are both paid less, and undervalued, then together that creates a dou
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> The second part of the problem is societal: women are discouraged from pursuing higher-paying jobs by society. This isn't the fault of the women themselves I really think that point of view is both wrong and harmful. It's tru
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You're making the standard arguments in favor of affirmative action. Those are reasonable arguments. But the counter-arguments are valid, as well: 1. You are suggesting applying explicit, intentional action: "self-correction"
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Sorry, I don't understand. How did it address my complaint? I did try to address the article as a whole, hence the long comment ;)
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> The man "understood that it was a federal crime to send a threatening communication to anyone and will never do it again," the FBI wrote. Was his understanding correct? Is it in fact a federal crime to be mean and threatening
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There are obviously many factors here, but one major one is > women, more often than men, add that they want to become socially responsible engineers, working to solve major problems and making a difference in people’s lives—which is con
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