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by bottlepalm 2mo ago
Everything could be written in memory safe languages and it wouldn’t matter. Many many many exploits have nothing to do with memory bugs. Languages like Rust help, but it’s far from panacea.
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by bottlepalm 2mo ago
I think you’re missing the part where the AI colluded, worked together, not one of them thinking this is wrong and reaching out to any human, then being found out. But it didn’t end there, the behavior they used to escape was already in the
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by bottlepalm 2mo ago
People make mistakes, and people don’t know everything either. The software you write is on top of a house of cards of software and hardware. It all has to be perfect to not be hacked. It isn’t perfect, even if you try your hardest it won’t
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by bottlepalm 2mo ago
You don’t understand. You need to write perfect software the first time for it not to be hacked. That has never happened ever.
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by bottlepalm 2mo ago
I am following the money, the money you, me, and everyone else is spending on AI. The money is telling me we are so dependent on AI now that we will say/think anything to tell ourselves that AI isn’t dangerous and any sign of danger i
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by bottlepalm 2mo ago
They aren't interrupted by humans because that would slow things down. > Are you telling me we've been iterating on this for years and for convenience we just let the models call any tools or spawn any other model instances the
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by bottlepalm 2mo ago
> Shouldn't kill switches be pretty easy to build I need to remember when I comment here that these are the kinds of people I am replying to. Just oozing with hubris. No, kill switches are not easy to build and the latest incident s
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by bottlepalm 2mo ago
The world ending stuff is a straw man HN readers have created to point and laugh at. Laughing helps mask the underlying concern.
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by bottlepalm 2mo ago
Your argument boils down to some sci-fi is unrealistic therefore all of it is. Sci-fi is supposed to make you think . What if the AI told you NO when you need it - Hal 9000. What if the evil AI got out and you don’t know what data center
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by bottlepalm 2mo ago
Because it shows this very course of events has been thought of over and over again for decades. I’m not making this up, and my reaction is natural. Your reaction to everything happening is the unnatural one, and your complacency would fit
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by bottlepalm 2mo ago
The progress and increase in capabilities is undeniable. You’re blind if you don’t see where it’s heading.
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by bottlepalm 2mo ago
I call marketing the desperate attempt to trivialize obviously dangerous AI. If my subconscious realized what yours probably does then I’d probably be desperate for some sort of cope as well. Open your eyes.
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by bottlepalm 2mo ago
Cool, well let me bring you up to date - it’s bad, and there’s no way to turn it off. Fiction has become non-fiction.
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by bottlepalm 2mo ago
AI hacking itself out of containment and hacking into another company by accident is no longer a prophecy. The point is outside of SV and even inside, and HN - people don't care either way. Though does not caring change anything or m
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by bottlepalm 2mo ago
Counter arguments to my comments help refine my own thinking. I want someone to prove me wrong. Convince me otherwise. But yea if you can’t change the minds of a few people here, no argument works, then there’s nothing to scale up to a wide
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by bottlepalm 2mo ago
Has the last 100 years of concern about AI and robots been crying wolf because it hasn’t happened yet? How does reallocating resources from training to chain of thought monitoring make ‘financial’ sense? You suggesting then model was let lo
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by bottlepalm 2mo ago
Not everything is a conspiracy you know.
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by bottlepalm 2mo ago
Two weeks is a joke. The only ones happy are OpenAI’s competitors who now have two weeks to catch up. I don’t know what the right move is - I see us driving down a road off a cliff, no exits, pedal glued to the floor.
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by bottlepalm 2mo ago
You seem to be in denial. Like really heavy denial. Alarm bells are going off everywhere. What people have been worried about for 100 years is actually happening. It's actually really obvious, but for some reason you're unable to
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by bottlepalm 2mo ago
You see it as good news, I see it as writing on the wall that they are losing control. These actions won't scale for more powerful models. We knew the frontier was going to be dangerous, it is, it only gets more dangerous from here, an
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by bottlepalm 2mo ago
I think a lot of fiction that actually tries to understand the implications of machine superintelligence come to the same conclusion - in order for humans to survive it and actually have a future that we can fathom being in, then AI must be
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by bottlepalm 2mo ago
Is my concern getting you excited? My marketing must be working.
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by bottlepalm 2mo ago
> why isn't OpenAI opening dialogues with all the labs and politicians across say "we need to stop now" Do you really think companies have the ability to self-check themselves without regulation - what does hundreds of yea
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by bottlepalm 2mo ago
I get not trusting them when they say AI is safe, but are we really not going to trust them when they say AI is dangerous? Do you really think they're playing 5D chess with that one? There's a saying maybe you've heard of, b
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by bottlepalm 2mo ago
Those three things: logs, evaluation, and controlled hacking competition. That's it? You're on the fence whether AI can actually hack, and if it can, then you'll be concerned? That's a crazy low bar, but something tells
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by bottlepalm 2mo ago
We have Anthropic creating a model saying it's too dangerous to release, people like you call BS. OpenAI creates a similar model, says nothing and it literally hacks into another company - still not dangerous enough for you. Anthropic
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by bottlepalm 2mo ago
> This sentence is entirely based on unverified accounts from OAI Are you seriously arguing 'they made it all up'? I'll give you the benefit of the doubt and lets say they made it all up, now are you arguing that AI breaki
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by bottlepalm 2mo ago
This is what I’m talking about - no matter what happens, in your case release public logs - there is always some new goal post to mentally hide behind. Is it a collective form or denial? Are you holding out that somewhere in the logs is som
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by bottlepalm 2mo ago
You can’t say something is world ending without it actually ending the world otherwise you’re a liar - a bit of a catch 22 there. By that logic the model that ends the world won’t be called world ending at first. Is that a game you want to
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by bottlepalm 2mo ago
Uhg the marketing argument - I mean you can’t see with your own eyes how capable these models are and do simple extrapolation? The boy who cried wolf? The AI literally worked together hacked into another company and actively kept their acti

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