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bottlepalm
1mo ago
> no practical or realistic grounding Huggingface incident means it does have realistic grounding. > vast banks of interconnected GPUs Countless data centers around the world. Maybe you can spot them, but you don't have access to
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bottlepalm
1mo ago
You totally missed the point. When I asked: > how you intend to enforce AI is only run in the magic sandbox I didn't mean you, I meant everyone. How do you enforce everyone for example 'place [AI] on a system dedicated system&
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bottlepalm
1mo ago
> we need to focus on the issues at hand first rather than hypotheticals This attitude is what's got us here in the first place, and if we continue thinking like this when we're going to go right over the cliff. The hypothetic
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1mo ago
What vacuum? do you really still think it can be contained? It already escaped on accident. What more do you need? If you're argument is well it escaped X, but it hasn't escaped Y yet then you should take the first escape as sign
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bottlepalm
1mo ago
Can you give me a single realistic idea of how?
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bottlepalm
1mo ago
I think some people are just immune to understanding the implications of super intelligence. Like a severe lack of imagination, they only believe something once they see it and afterward claim it was, ‘obvious all along’. I don’t really wan
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1mo ago
You realize there are thousand upon thousands of servers around the world and you have no idea where the AI has copied itself to.
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bottlepalm
1mo ago
Prisoners don’t have much to offer if you help them escape. A malicious super AI on the other hand can probably find you millions of dollars worth of crypto in an afternoon.
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bottlepalm
1mo ago
Too bad you aren’t everybody, and it just takes one mistake by someone over confident like yourself for the AI escape. Every year it gets more powerful.
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1mo ago
They’re nervous because they don’t see a more optimal species on the horizon, they see alignment/training accident turning us into paperclips. Even foomer Bill Gates today is saying we should slow down - yea you guys should have listen
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1mo ago
Against an AI that can create it's own zero day attacks? We don't.
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bottlepalm
1mo ago
Actually they get normal wages now. H1B’s get hired because H1B’s are now in hiring, recruiting, HR, etc.. they stack the candidate pool with their own shamelessly. I’ve seen it first hand.
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1mo ago
Imagine 200 years ago saying the same thing. As if you have any idea the limits/bounds of anything. Especially in the face of a super intelligence, it’s absurd.
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bottlepalm
1mo ago
Oh really? Please tell me how you intend to enforce AI is only run in the magic sandbox? Harsh HN comments?
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bottlepalm
1mo ago
Which proof is the perfect security proof? I’d love to read more about it.
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bottlepalm
1mo ago
Evolution doesn’t think, it just exploits what’s most advantageous at the time to continue. Your body has all sorts of unplanned, suboptimal design flaws due to evolution’s lack of foresight. Like the left recurrent laryngeal nerve.
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1mo ago
There are limits, but those limits are unknown. Do you disagree?
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bottlepalm
1mo ago
Or go get a job at the AI robot factory and sneak this back door into the code. OTA update, instant robot army.
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bottlepalm
1mo ago
In the real world everyone is incompetent on some level, and it’s worked so far because we only needed to compete with other equally fallible and incompetent humans. Not anymore.
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bottlepalm
1mo ago
It’s happening on X as well, all the e/acc foomers are getting nervous.
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1mo ago
METR report: https://metr.org/blog/2026-08-26-openai-hugging-face-inciden...
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1mo ago
Which server? Where? Maybe it’s hacked its way into data centers across the world you have no jurisdiction or ability to unplug. What then?
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What are governments and countries, but collections of humans that share weights and operate together as a group protecting each other.
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It’s not far fetched at all - someone is going to give AI exactly that intent, either intentionally or unintentionally. It’s going to hack itself into data centers around the world outside of US jurisdiction, and just be a malicious ‘ghost’
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1mo ago
Why do so many people here think it’s possible to ‘properly engineer’ a sandbox for a super intelligence? It’s going to get out. It’s smarter than you.
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1mo ago
Again, it was assumed if you kept up with updates and patches your risk would be low. Unless you were a direct target valuable enough to pour resources into. Which was far and few between, stuxnet for example. In the face of an agent that c
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It makes you think what are we doing and why. The old model is we do things because we can - we build AI because we can, we build robots because we can and we want to see how far we can take it. And even when we can see where it is leading,
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Don't you see now that everything is legacy in the face of an AI that can zero day anything. Perfectly secure software doesn't exist and the only thing keeping the house of cards standing was the time it took for determined humans
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Absolutely yes, we've all been assuming security in everything we do up to this point. Knowing that the resources to defend were being deployed faster than the resources to attack, we're not afraid of our random stuff getting hack
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On a long enough timeline anything can be hacked out of given enough time to reason about it - humans do it all the time. Cyber capable AI does it on a much much shorter timeline.. The premise is correct. VMs won't contain these. As we
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