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blihp
10y ago
It doesn't surprise me only because I've followed Gruber's blog over the years: he's a typography and font geek in the same way that many of us are tech geeks. The use of a licensed font was a design conceit on his part
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They absolutely were related (as were databases and FPUs). Had these mainstream business applications not driven them, it would have likely been years later before they became standard equipment. The FPU was likely originally added with &
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blihp
10y ago
The best example that I can suggest is to look at the STEPS project (i.e. what Alan was referring to in the talk): http://tinlizzie.org/updates/exploratory/packages and their papers: http://vpri.org
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blihp
10y ago
And to many it's fine if it is. The GPL wasn't created to benefit the software industry, it was a reaction to it. That's also part of the reason that some commercial interests (most famously Apple) have been moving in the d
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blihp
10y ago
Yes, you're absolutely correct. The GPL, and resulting GPL'd software, does not exist for the benefit of commercial software vendors. While some business models are viable under it, that's a side-effect rather than an objec
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blihp
10y ago
While I can appreciate that point of view (i.e. as a vendor), the definition does depend on whose POV you are looking at it from. From an end-user (individual or business) POV, the GPL is absolutely 'freely redistributable' what
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blihp
10y ago
Not necessarily. That was one of the points Alan made in his AMA when suggesting 'send processes rather than messages'[1] That thread used the example of how to find things and then what to do when you find them. [1] https:/
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blihp
10y ago
You are correct, Smalltalk as-is can't currently do that. I believe he was referring to a future language / evolution / system that he would like to see, not something that currently exists. These are the sorts of things I
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blihp
10y ago
Squeak[1]/Smalltalk? (i.e. have you worked with what he would consider a 'real' message-oriented OO language?) [1] http://squeak.org/downloads/
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10y ago
My example definitely presumed things like service discovery which gets you to URLs. But I think I see the larger point you make about what if you don't even know what kind services are available (which my example assumes you already
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blihp
10y ago
Granted, names have their problems. But as a tactical solution URLs can be used to send high-level messages or at least as a name resolution scheme to initiate communication between two or more OO systems. And URLs are just names... (credi
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blihp
10y ago
Smalltalk and Lisp (via CLOS) would still be my top two choices... haven't come across anything better yet.
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blihp
10y ago
I can probably point you in the right direction for OMeta... what's you're preferred dynamic language? The other material is a bit tougher to come by as I don't believe Viewpoints has released a code snapshot of what they
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blihp
10y ago
Here's a presentation, while chronologically earlier, that is specifically about the Viewpoints STEPS project which includes a good segment on OMeta: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HAT4iewOHDs As jgon mentioned, Alex