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apotheon
17y ago
. . . or, alternatively: BSD shares. GPL tells you to share.
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apotheon
17y ago
> You're not in the minority. Fanatics are just loud. Hmmm. That statement has implications you may not have intended.
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17y ago
It's evidence of something . I wonder how many failed Linux distributions there are.
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17y ago
Oh, yeah, I forgot something in my other response. > If you contribute to a BSD'ed project you take the risk of your competitor taking your code and making it a competitive advantage against you. The GPL actually has more value as a too
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apotheon
17y ago
That kinda seems to be the point: the GPL folks come off as hypocritical form the BSD folks' point of view, and the BSD folks are unwilling to be that hypocritical about it.
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17y ago
> GPLed software is Free™ software that remains Free™. FTFY
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apotheon
17y ago
Perhaps they wouldn't all have contributed code back. On the other hand, maybe yet more would have used the code, and some of them would have contributed code back. Copyleft vs. copyfree is not a zero-sum game. Choice of license doesn't
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apotheon
17y ago
No no no . . . it's more like the others didn't want to be required to demand that other people bake pies for them. "Look, when I bake a pie and give it away to other people, I just want other people to have the pie and be happy. Why the f
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17y ago
That's absurd. Murder? Seriously? Are you really comparing the ability to use code with fewer restrictions with "murder"? Is "murder" the new "Nazi" or something? edit: . . . and I'd like to see your statistical evidence for the GPL actu
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17y ago
The very text you quoted was talking about Alice's ability to make use of Bob's "free" code. Were you not reading what you quoted? Consider this, also, when thinking about which is "more free": Which person's code can be used with code tha
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17y ago
I guess GNU people are perfectly welcome to use the word "free", but they should stop acting like they're using "free" in some manner that makes the recipient of the code more "free" than less restrictive licenses.
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17y ago
I have no idea where you stand on the issue of which is the more "important" definition of freedom, but the way you frame the issue is pretty much spot-on (especially since it perfectly mirrors my own take on the difference, and reinforces
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17y ago
I think that falls apart when you realize that, by using a license identical to the GPL but with all instances of "GPL" replaced by some other term (say, "RCL" for "really cool license"), the code distributed under each license is unusable
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17y ago
Maybe it has something to do with the fact that "big, evil corporations" are a write-off, and we expect them to be evil -- while people who take BSD-licensed code and wrap it up in a "thou shalt not touch" layer of GPL should know better
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17y ago
I think that any time things called "purges" start happening in a social context, it's a bad sign.
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apotheon
17y ago
The problem is that this Erlang crap actually displaces other stuff, making it difficult to find the articles some of us would actually like to read.
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17y ago
He mentions that number like he thinks that's a good thing.
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apotheon
17y ago
That's not just a GUI -- it looks like it supports alpha transparency. That's certainly more than I expected out of a floppy disk.
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17y ago
I think you just answered your first question with your second. I guess the difference between my take on it and the OP's is that I didn't have shiny hopes that HN would turn out to be exempt from typical human nature in the long run.
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apotheon
17y ago
How many hundreds of Erlang articles does it take to distract "us" from a handful of _why submissions?
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apotheon
17y ago
I've actually been doing so, but it doesn't seem to be making much difference. I only get one vote per item. I appreciate your efforts to keep this "Hacker News" instead of letting it turn into "Erlang News", in any case.
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17y ago
. . . or maybe the short one got upvoted faster because it's easy to form an opinion of it (and thus upvote it with some understanding of it) quickly than the longer pieces, and since Erlang stuff is already flooding the front page, longer
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17y ago
No, that's not an argument by assertion. It's an argument by pointing out that your "definition" of security through obscurity is apparently at odds with the very origins of the concept. I'm not saying that hiding the keyhole harms securit
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17y ago
Look at the front page of Hacker News right now. Tell me that doesn't look at least as insane. God, I hope this blows over by the time I get back from my RPG session tonight.
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17y ago
This is awesome. Seriously. Someone upvote this thing. I almost didn't see it under the mound of Erlang.
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17y ago
upvoted for not being about Erlang
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17y ago
Perhaps this should have been titled "Recursion". edit: Good job!
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17y ago
It's a ridiculous overreaction to a handful of submissions about the disappearance of _why. That's all. Considering the original "flush" was initiated to try to get non-hackers to stop coming here, I have to wonder if some of the people pa
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17y ago
It's worse than that, now. I count 78% Erlang on the front page of Hacker News.
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apotheon
17y ago
I don't, so much, since this has gone from "Hacker News" to "Erlang News". There are already sites dedicated to Erlang.
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