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an1sotropy
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> Plots are borderline unreadable by default Really? Of all your complaints that one seems the least true, in my experience. I think plots are lovely by default, but then 5% of the time it’s crap and then I’m cursing, with you, at how al
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I think my confusion about the use of "use" [1] is actually about what josephcsible is saying. It may be that copyright empowers you can write a license that limits how someone can use the material, but then it falls outside what
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4y ago
If you know this area of IP law then you know that LOTs of licenses, copyleft or not, require attribution (which copilot never does, and can’t do by its construction), and you know that what’s problematic is when the model output is arguabl
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4y ago
Well, Linux might not exist, at least not in its current nature form, enabled by a “share and share alike” license that has meant that companies contribute to it instead of copying and closing it off from others. More generally, what is lef
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4y ago
You haven’t actually thought through what kind of world it would be if there was no copyright law, have you? I don’t know what your political leanings are, but I’ve met some libertarians who are blissfully naive about the extent to which t
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4y ago
Okay; thanks for clarifying. I actually hadn't noticed that use of "use" in the BSD license before. I think I need an IP lawyer explain what that "use" means.
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4y ago
I think (1) you're mainly missing that copyleft vs non-copyleft is actually irrelevant for the copilot case. You also (2) may be missing the legal footing of copyleft licenses. (1) The problem with copilot is that when it blurps out co
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4y ago
Licenses get to set terms of redistribution. But training of the ML model -- the thing described by your #3 -- is not redistribution (imho). So maybe it's as unenforceable as saying left-handed people can't read your code. The
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4y ago
copilot is great, and ignorance is bliss, isn't it The situation that this lawsuit is trying to save you from is this: (1) copilot blurps out some code X that you use, and then redistribute in some form (monetized or not); (2) it turns
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4y ago
IANAL, and I'm no fan of copilot, but I wonder if this kind of clause (your #3) is going to fly: you're preemptively prohibiting certain kinds of reading of the code (when code is read by the ML model in training). But is that so
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Seems important to point out that the announcement on this page ( https://githubcopilotlitigation.com/ ) is a followup to https://githubcopilotinvestigation.com/ previously discussed here: https://
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4y ago
I think this is a great question, but I think answers should rest on a slightly more detailed understanding of how actually copyright works. IANAL, but to a first-order approximation: everything is "copyrighted" [1]. The copyri
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4y ago
Can you recommend a mastadon instance?
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4y ago
It just shows what a cool rational crowd HN is; we're watching the situation rather than giving hot takes :)
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Needl: One app to search them all
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Agreed. Something else apparent from the comments is that people seem to think that some things are copyrighted, and some aren't, and that copilot would be better if it could avoid copyrighted code. Actually, essentially ALL code is
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4y ago
I agree that my healthcare interactions have been improved by Epic. But Epic has no motivation to keep improving, because they control most [1] of the US medical records, and once a hospital is a client, its practically impossible for the
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4y ago
Ryan - one word you avoided using in your reply is "license". The fact that Copilot is reproducing code without attribution is not the legal show-stopper here has much as the fact Copilot is reproducing code without documenting w
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> I very much approve of the idea of Copilot as long as the copied code is annotated with the right license. I agree, but I somehow doubt that will ever happen. Partly because MS is motivated to muddy the waters and shift norms towards a
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This is a huge and looming legal problem. I wonder if what should be a big uproar about it is muted by the widespread acceptance/approval of github and related products, in which case its a nice example of how monopolies damage communi
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A completely different and complementary story about the neighborhood that was razed to create Lincoln Center was just on NPR: https://www.npr.org/2022/10/07/1126189129/san-juan-hill-linc...
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If you like this, you'll like Planiverse (1984) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Planiverse A bit like the classic Flatland book, this also imagines a 2D world, and also fosters thinking about higher dimensions.
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In Display PostScript the clients emit PS as their interface and for graphical output - its execution of a self-contained page/screen description language from the outset. HTML and CSS are very much not that. I think if anything this
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sed s/vanilla/pure/g (my wish for what we call javascript itself)
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Is there any news about the status of the type-annotations-as-comments proposal? The README has said "Details will change in the coming days" since March 31. I know TCs are supposed to move deliberately, but this is such a neat
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Can you say more about why "it sucks"? Are there some specific changes you can think of that would have made it a less bad idea?
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"IEEE754" is ubiquitous because it was the first non-platform-specific solution to a fundamentally hard engineering problem (how to approximate the entire real number line with a finite number of bits), and because it is supported
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What are you going to do with the data you get from syncing to everyone's google calendar?
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I cannot say enough good things about this creator. His most recent one https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LhfCietvDZo is a tour de force of historical astronomy, and entrancing to watch.
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very different from that https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Design_Patterns Gang of Four
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