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The content doesn't belongs to Google and the permissions granted are the standard for any service that displays or modifies the content.
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Alleged? It has been a ruling already
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> A subsidy is as good as state aid. Is subsidy a form of tax, no. Second time, what China does is not EU problem > It is an issue of tax, not even as blurry as a subsidy. No, it is not a tax issue., Read the press release. > China
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Perhaps you got down voted because even if it has been explained a lot of times, the EC has no problem with Ireland competing with low tax rates. The case is not about low tax rates, the case is about an state (previously was Belgium and 35
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Taking into account that the EC ruling is not about tax competition, the Mises article is moot
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Accused of Tax Dodging, Apple Says It's the World's Largest Taxpayer
(motherjones.com)
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> You could say the same thing about Chinese steel being subsidised by the Chinese state. China doesn't pertain to the EU > A US court cannot change that. It is the same with the EC on tax issues. EC authority about state aids ha
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> The EU court and EC has no authority to do what its doing now. The EC doesn't have authority in cases of illegal state aid? Then we should throw away the cases since decades
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> If the EU doesn't like that Ireland gave a special deal, then the EU needs to work on becoming competitive, instead of trying to throw it's weight around. Are you aware that Ireland pertains to the EU, isn't?
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12.5% is so high?
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> To turn around now and assert the later is a slap on the cheek and potentially the beginning of a slippery slope to a United States of Europe. They are not doing that. And the ruling explicitly say that they don't have a problem w
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Well, he also was confident of victory in the lawsuit about collusion with publishers.
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> That's not precisely accurate. The EC's ruling is that the Irish government changed the law in an unlawful way. The ruling is that the Irish Government applied wrongly the actual law, no law has been changed > There has no
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> Either you pay what is required by law or you don't. And according to the EC, they don't
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From the rulingÑ > ASI, formerly Apple Computer International and originally Apple Computer Accessories Ltd., is a 100% subsidiary of AOE. ASI is an Irish-incorporated non-resident company that is carrying on a trade through a branch in
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Well, 35 EU companies were subjected to the same ruling in Belgium earlier this year and Belgian government has to recover 700 million euro. Apple is not the first case, it is just more mediatic and has a bigger sum
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But this is not a case of a Tax authority asking a company taxes, it is the EC saying what it is the amount owed.
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> The problem is the UN are saying Ireland should have different tax laws and therefore Apple should now pay Ireland retrospective taxes based on what the UN thinks Ireland's tax law should have been in the past. No, the EC is not s
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> Of course they did (the loophole is now closed), but the point here is that this scheme was entirely legal No, it was not legal, this is what the ruling says
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Apple is not fined
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Alcohol is already heavily taxed > People making profit isn't something we need to discourage. Who is discouraging it?
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Why they won't collect all the due taxes?
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And here the press release from the European Commission http://europa.eu/rapid/press-release_IP-16-2923_en.htm
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Commission says Ireland granted undue tax benefits of up to €13B to Apple
(rte.ie)
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It is not a fine, is paying the taxes not payed
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> Isn't it Ireland's prerogative if they want to collect taxes on corporations or not? What is not a member of the UE prerogative is giving unfair deals to just some companies. This is what the case is about.
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Can you source how many illegal state aids rulings have been overturned on appeal?
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The process is against Ireland, not Apple
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No, the deals were offered to just some companies
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Here are the allegations http://eur-lex.europa.eu/legal-content/EN/TXT/HTML/?uri=CELE...
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