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In the article, I make the case that they can reason but it is in many ways distinct from the way we do it. It is also learned from very different fundamentals. Our reasoning fundamentals come from sensing, and experiencing. LLMs reasoning
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You might enjoy the analysis in the article. https://www.arnaldur.be/writing/about/large-language-model-r... There is an expandable box with all the questions, colored by correctness, and question 6 has a bunch of
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That's very true. I thought about speaking more to that issue but the post was already longer than I wanted. You might find this short analysis interesting. https://www.arnaldur.be/experimenting/with/large-lan
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I know about the Chinese Room. The pivotal difference is that the intelligence is performing a mechanical task and none of its intelligence is inserted into the inputs. No synthesis is performed. In the API example, it's literally peop
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Look at question six and its responses. That is what I look into there. From the article: > I asked the model further about its 6th response. It realized its error at the slightest hint of disagreement, but just [asking it to elaborate]
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> But just ask ChatGPT (4o) how a farmer and a sheep would cross a river on a boat. For certain formulations, it reliably hallucinates a wolf or a piece of cabbage into the problem. Why? Because it pattern matches the solution to a well-
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That is exactly the point I'm trying to make in the chapter They don't reason like us: https://www.arnaldur.be/writing/about/large-language-model-r...
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Interesting concept, it's especially apt, as GEB has been sitting, unread, on my desk for about a month now. I'll take the hint and read it ;)
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Why is that API, as specified, not intelligent? If your calculator could do everything you can do, as long as it fits through an API, I would call it intelligent, would you not?
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I don't rigorously define reason in the article and I state that it is hard to draw clear boundaries. I'm more relying on the readers intuitive understanding of the idea, which is perhaps not a good thing to do. I wouldn't sa
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It would certainly be lossy. We don't know how to make them reliably know any particular facts. Neither training or in context learning does this without fail.
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Can large language models reason?
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I'm surprised they don't mention grouped query attention at all.
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It will be very interesting to see which tools become the de-facto for each of the common LLM use cases. The landscape is so fractured, I feel like I haven't even heard of most tools. I encountered Microsoft's olive the other day
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It's funny. I have really wanted a product like this for a while. There is absolutely no way I would consider a non-FOSS program to do this though.
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I think you vastly overestimate how much people care about model censorship. There are a bunch of open models that aren't censored. Llama 3 is still way more popular because it's just smarter.
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Lmao
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That is not true. Transformers are being applied all over because they work better than what was used before in so many cases.
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I never played myst or riven. I loved The Witness and the Talos Principle. What concessions were made to the internet age?
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I was thinking about this in the context of the graffiti subculture around the German rail system. It's pretty interesting and different from random tagging. I somewhat agree with you if we are talking about low effort tagging, especia
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Two of my replies just said that graffiti was worse than bank robberies. That's hilarious and crazy to me. I get your point though, on reading the comment I replied to, after reading yours, it's clear to me that the equivalence im
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I was thinking about societies in general. Bank robberies are absolutely worse. They can involve multiple lives being at much greater risk and a large amount of resources allocated to criminals. The fact that it doesn't come from the b
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Architecturally, LLMs are very simple compared to many software projects. The crux of their behavior comes from their learned weights which are gigabytes and can cost millions to obtain via training.
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Implying that graffiti is as bad as bank robberies is wild.
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Hah! That's also sad. I don't want to in the US. I'm spoiled by walkability and quality cycling infrastructure.
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Cool! I'm amused that it's on the Steelseries website and it's not so clear how these two are related.
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That's such a frustrating thing. There are so many opportunities in SF alone. But I really don't want to live there.
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According to the paper[1], Gemini Nano-1 is 1.8B, and (Nano-2) is 3.25B parameters. They are quantized to 4-bits which makes them 0.9GB and 1.6GB respectively. That's a juicy binary blob to ship with Chrome. As this will be on device,
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New SOTA 4-bit weight and KV quantization with optimized GPU performance
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I believe model distillation does this. SparseGPT was a big one, managing to remove 50% of parameters without loosing much accuracy IIRC. I saw a more recent paper citing the SparseGPT one that managed around 70-80% sparsity, pretty impress
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