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AUR isn't a package repo. It's a collection of user-contributed PKGBUILD scripts, to make building packages from upstream source distributions more convenient. It's not meant to be treated like an official repo of binary pa
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Direct link to the video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qzpZQe7JT-o It's quite interesting, and describes how the developer used COBOL to implement a raycasting algorithm and generate a stream of PPM images to to pi
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4mo ago
In Belfast? Was that a Protestant Somali man or a Catholic Somali man?
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> It wasn’t that long ago that American racists debated whether Italians and even Irish were truly “white.” The definition of white had expanded considerably over the years. Eastern Europeans, Jews (of course), and Russians were also at
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4mo ago
> The camera analogy is a good one but I have never had a camera that had every great picture somebody else had taken, plus every work of art, baked into it. I've never had an LLM that had any of that baked into it either. LLMs jus
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> It was the first time I can say that installing a linux OS was easier and friendlier than Windows. I'd say that from work experience managing an IT department that maintains and deploys both Windows and Linux machines, the adminis
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4mo ago
> But try to write your own story of a lion cub chased away by his uncle and living in a jungle until his childhood friend finds him and convinces him to reclaim his kingdom, and you'll quickly hear from Disney's lawyers how no
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4mo ago
Of course, one might construe Apple as an MITM in the relationship between the user an and the software vendor.
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> under the condition that if you use it for anything, I get credited; else, you get nothing. But this has never been a condition in the FOSS world, as far as I'm aware. I've only ever seen attribution requirements attach to r
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4mo ago
> But it does exist, and within this framework, the creator gets to say how you may redistribute their IP, Right. And the way the creator gets to exercise that say is by releasing their work under a license. If you release your work un
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> If you put a GPL C program through Emscripten to run in a browser the output doesn't include the original C code but it's surely a derivative work. Because it does include content from the original work -- this is just a tran
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4mo ago
I mean, the most restrictive license, the GPL, was conceived specifically to protect the "four freedoms" and prevent subsequent modifications from violating them. The "copyleft" concept was specifically designed to crea
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> Uh, that is exactly what a derivative work is. No, it isn't. A derivative work isn't something based on extracting underlying ideas or patterns from another work, it's something that includes copyrighted portions of t
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4mo ago
> That's wrong. What on earth gave you that impression when the licenses specifically set constraints on what downstream can do (from "release derivatives as open" to "put me in the credits"). These are restricti
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> It sounds like your view of things is limited mostly to that last version of FOSS, the copyleft style. No, I'm well aware of the different motivations for and approaches to FOSS. I'm mostly focusing on the copyleft/GNU
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4mo ago
> This is extremely false. Copyright additionally grants you exclusive control over the production and distribution of derivative works. A derivative work is a work that itself includes copyrighted content from the original work. That
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> But if a specific work was generated based on a specific open source work, then according to the social contract that binds non-AI code generators such as transpilers, the output is derivative and should follow the license of that open
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4mo ago
> But we are talking about a social contract, which is not quite the same thing. The social contract is what leads some devs who previously enjoyed publishing their work openly to no longer feel the same way. Perhaps this illustrates a f
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4mo ago
> It's a tool, if using data is necessary to make the tool work, then its output derives from the data. That's simply not correct within the applicable meaning of "derives" as understood in copyright law. In fact, d
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What? What is being "stolen" from you? Are you now layering the old and tired "copyright infringement = stealing" argument on top of the still unsubstantiated premise that all LLM training is copyright infringement?
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Both would resolve to the same question, no? There seems to be an implicit premise here that any work generated by an LLM whose training data includes a particular bit of code itself constitutes a redistribution of that code. I've y
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DDOSing websites seems to be an unrelated problem, and one that has traditionally been solved through response throttling and IP blocking. Attribution is often required even on MIT or BSD licenses where code is being redistributed, either i
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4mo ago
Yes, extensions can be installed into the system-wide config via entries in the manged policy JSON. Settings configured in a specific browser session naturally won't persist, though, but defaults set in an initial preferences config w
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So the questions here are (a) is any generally accepted social contract actually being broken, and (b) if so, who are the ones who are breaking it?
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4mo ago
Can you point to some specific examples of products shipped by the companies I assume you're referring to here that are in fact unattributed derivative works of GPL-licensed software? Or are you saying that you think anything generated
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> I never said there was?? You distinguished data centers from other types of facilities on the basis of those other facilities having external effects that are "essential to a community", and then used that distinction as a ba
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It's not possible for any of this to be "plain as day" without being substantiated by data. There is no way to validate a statistical indicator without being able to independently measure the target variable. Validating yo
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Sure, but I guess I'm not seeing the relevance here. Are we seeing some greater-than-normal wave of people redistributing FOSS code without attribution, or creating derivative works without adhering to the license terms? LLM training
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To whom would you attribute the greater part of that reduction in trust: the people using FOSS to train LLMs, or the people trying to block them?
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Yeah, I really can't comprehend these sentiments as anything other than an "I don't like AI" argument. FOSS has always been about just writing code and putting it out into the world where others can do as they please wi
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